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This is a major reason I pray that people realize the importance of LIMITED GOVERNMENT. It is the liberal application of government that has created the illegal immigration mess in the first place. To wit: minimum wage laws, generous freebie government entitlements for "minority" poor; and pushing politics of envy by demonizing employers foremost, when meddlesome government is the primary culprit.

Builiding a bigger fence, with all respect, is treating a symptom, not a cause.

Damn! And when I suggested nearly the same thing, I was the forum's heretic.

No doubt your posts have helped focus my thinking! And vice versa, I hope! I'm with you so much on this! What worries me is that many illegal-immigrant-issue Republicans are allowing their thinking to be guided and motivated by anger, and that is a big, big mistake. Anger clouds clear thinking and makes people do stupid things they regret later.

Anger has no place in this. LC Joe, you're so right in that post you link to! You are thinking very clearly when you point to the New Deal mentality that created the whole illegal immigrant mess in the first place. I think minimum wage is a HUGE HUGE contributor -- for God's sake, go down to Guaymas or Hermasillo and understand that a minimum wage job where all you have to do to be beloved and steadily employed by an American employer a few hundred miles north, is to show up regularly and do your low-skilled job -- and earn enough money to keep a large family well! Good people live in cardboard villages down there, for Pete's sake!

OF COURSE those people are going to bust ass to get up to the U.S., especially when their competition in the low-skilled minimum wage workforce market is mainly sullen American kids with bad attitudes and a worse work ethic. Employers are not to blame for this -- THE GOVERNMENT IS TO BLAME. And then the illegal immigrants are further rewarded with free education, tuition breaks, free health care, welfare, entitlements, and on and on and on, all provided by THE GOVERNMENT!

The GOVERNMENT is the cause, and the biggest fence and the screamingest anger in the world aren't going to do a damned thing. What WILL do something constructive is replacing big-government thinkiers with politicians who understand the postive power of LIMITED GOVERNMENT to solve root problems.

I saw some FReeper here (you, perhaps?) once liken it to having a problem with cockroaches, and noting that you can spray with poison and patch a few holes, but as long as you leave free food lying around, you're always going to have a cockroach problem.

I am 100 percent for Fred Thompson because he articulates and his record clearly shows a fundamental embrace of LIMITED GOVERNMENT principles. He's the right guy for the Republican party and the right guy for hard-working Americans who are sick and tired of nanny government "fixing" things for us.