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To: Dog Gone
The best thing we could do for the Indians is to abolish this notion of Indian Nations

And those notions were created by whom? The Indians (who were roaming free) or the Foreign Government that took over this land? Are you one of the idiots that thinks that the Indians got themselves into this situation?

286 posted on 12/20/2007 3:45:58 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: fish hawk
Are you one of the idiots that thinks that the Indians got themselves into this situation?

Oh, I'm sorry. We should never have come over here. The Indian civilization, oops there wasn't one, would have been so better off without that development.

And I am sick of people like you who blame people from 200 years ago for the plight of people today. Where is personal responsibility? Crap, if I were 1/16th indian blood, I wouldn't have had to pay for my own education.

290 posted on 12/20/2007 4:05:50 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: fish hawk

By both. The first Indians Europeans in North America encountered were the Aztecs, Toltecs, etc [with a governmental form not totally alien to the Europeans], the Powhattan Confederation, the [later named] Wampanoag Confederation, and the Iroquois Confederation [who are now claiming they gave Franklin and the boys the idea for our governmental form.

European settlers wound up fighting the Powhattans [Opechancanough’s Wars], the Wampanoags [King Philip’s War], the Pontiac Confederacy, and at least four of the Six Nations of the Iroquois. From the beginning, Americans treated with Indians as separate nations, which the Indians seemed to prefer [logical in a society based on communal use of resources].

The mistake the U.S made came under Grant, when the cultural separatists won out over the assimilationists, and the old system continued. Indians should have been integrated into the society as individuals, given citizenship, land allotments under the Homestead Act, and temporay support and assistance in transitioning from hunter-gathering to agriculture [or in the case of the Cheyenne, Pawnee and other tribes, transitioning back to agriculture].


316 posted on 12/20/2007 10:14:52 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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