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To: Danae

Your clearly an angry person and have alot of chips on your shoulder. You throw out alot of garbage in hopes that someone will agree with you. If you think all men are created equal you’re head is too deep in the sand. Wake up.

Why should our generation be held responsible for actions that were taken 150+ years ago? I don’t feel the least bit bad for the people living on the reservations. It is nobody’s fault but their own for not leaving and trying to make a better life for themselves. You said it best...”Alternatively, tell us your solutions for making unfarmable industryless land productive.” You have just painted the region as a dead part of the planet. Thats extremely ignorant of you to suggest.

I’ve been there and I never want to go back. I personally hope the people who are ‘stuck’ there can find a way out. There’s much more in this Great country than a life in a welfare ridden lifeless dead region.


269 posted on 12/20/2007 2:06:29 PM PST by Drexxell
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To: Drexxell

Well Drexxell, I would suggest you check that 2x4 in your own eye out before you worry yourself about anything in mine.

You bring up a couple of things that make you look like an ignoramus.
1) “All men are created equal” is a phrase from a document which declares YOU to be a free man. Wake up yourself.
2) The reason we have to deal with things that happened 150 years ago is because the RAMIFICATIONS of what happened 150 years ago are still happening today. If you don’t believe me, how about you going back say 1500 years ago, or even just 1000 years ago and look at the wars between Christianity and Islam. Or are you of the ignorant opinion that the Christians and Moslems of today are NOT living the ramifications of several thousand years of war??? Be serious. Living with the false assumption that we are NOT affected by our history is not only ignorant it can be flat out deadly. Don’t believe me? Go check out Manhattan, where the WTC used to stand. We weren’t there 2000 years ago, the United States wasn’t even a glimmer of an idea.... but WE are the proxy for a Christian enemy to Islam of 2000 years ago, and 3000 innocent people paid for it with their lives. Wake up.
3)I am not angry, am disappointed, in posters like you for one. You are a hypocrite if you support the status quo which as you so aptly point out has made a whole region “lifeless” to use the words of one who has “Been there”. That in and of itself is a hypocritical statement!
Why are you a Hypocrite you ask? Because you sit there in front of your computer basically calling names because you just can’t face an issue that might just make you question what it is to be an American, and just what this Nation DID to the Indians who lived here before your ancestors arrived here, or that actively participated in. Why a Hypocrite, because you sit there and arrogantly tell me you don’t even want to revisit a place that these people have no choice but to live in, and tell me its THEIR FAULT, when its the institutions set up by OUR government that has perpetrated it? That has perpetuated it for 150 years? They weren’t given that land to necessarily LIVE on, they were given that land to DIE on. Ignoring the truth does NOT make it any less the truth, and it is ignoramuses like you who refuse to see the plain and simple truth, who to try and wash it away or make it “someone’ else’s fault, or make the victims also into the victimizers!

There IS a lot more to this country, but if you do not have the means by which to attain it, you don’t have the means. The first is education, the second is proximity to resources, both of which have been denied many of the Indian Nations. Look at where they ARE! Look at who PUT them there. Looking at those things should be making us look at ourselves and recognize that a wrong has been committed, regardless of WHEN it happened, that does NOT lesson the fact that it should be addressed and dealt with. Call me angry if you like, in that case you are part of the problem and I will dismiss you as such.


283 posted on 12/20/2007 3:21:36 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha (Smoke clears and Fred Thompson is President))
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