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To: Toddsterpatriot

really? there have been several inventors of late that have found inexpensive ways to split the h20 molecules and use the very powerfull hydrogen gas to run an engine. That gas is quite a bit more powerfull than gasoline and is more efficient and clean burning. Where am I wrong? It is well known that gasoline is an inferior fuel in power compared to hydrogen. And you seem to be overlooking all of the energy used in order to make that galllon of gasoline. You deny me my point that there is hydrogen energy in water and then ask me about what classes I have taken. Obviously the hydrogen energy I spoke of needs to be released by splitting the h20 molecule, but that doen’t deny my statement. The energy is dormant but ready to be released. I think it was obvious what I meant and you are just splitting hairs for some weird reason.


103 posted on 12/22/2007 8:34:55 PM PST by fabian
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To: fabian
really?

Truly.

That gas is quite a bit more powerfull than gasoline and is more efficient and clean burning. Where am I wrong?

It takes more energy to get the hydrogen than you get out of burning the hydrogen.

And you seem to be overlooking all of the energy used in order to make that galllon of gasoline.

Even if you used half the energy in the oil to make the gasoline, you still have more energy than you started with.

You deny me my point that there is hydrogen energy in water

Take 1 KWH of energy to make hydrogen. Burn the hydrogen. How much usable energy do you think you get?

and then ask me about what classes I have taken.

Yes, because your lack of understanding makes it obvious you haven't.

Obviously the hydrogen energy I spoke of needs to be released by splitting the h20 molecule,

That splitting takes more energy than you get back out. Sounds like a bad battery, not a source of energy.

The energy is dormant but ready to be released.

LOL!

I think it was obvious what I meant and you are just splitting hairs for some weird reason.

Yeah, the weird reason is my understanding of physics. And your lack.

104 posted on 12/22/2007 9:09:24 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (What came first, the bad math or the goldbuggery?)
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To: fabian
Saying that there is hydrogen energy in water (other than from possible hydrogen fusion), is like saying that there is carbon based energy in carbon dioxide (both water and carbon dioxide represent spent energy). Energy needs to be added to the system in either case in order to produce a usable fuel. In the case of carbon, biological systems convert solar energy via photosynthesis, into fuels. In the case of hydrogen, the oxygen is removed from water (by electrochemical, chemical, or biological means) to produce a fuel - hydrogen.
122 posted on 12/23/2007 9:44:20 AM PST by reg45
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