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To: fortheDeclaration
In SOME small number of CIO unions until the merger in which the AFL leaders successfully required the forced purge of the reds whose activity was generally CIO. The unions themselves prevented communist influence here and, on their worst day, understood the reds and how to crush them better than any paleobimbo ever did or ever would. Reagan was president of the Screen Actors' Guild in the 1940s. SAG is and was a labor union (lions and tigers and bears, oh my!!!) Was Reagan a communist???? This notion of unions as forces for communism is the delusion of the cheapskate counting house wing of the old GOP dedicated to mere materialism. In that way they (aka paleowhatevers/money obsessives) have something in common with dialectical materialists aka Marxist-Leninists aka communists. They are all materialists. They just differ on who gets the gummint on their respective sides to determine the redistribution or retention of the goodies.

What's so curious is IIRC that you were linking an alleged purge of communists by Walter Reuther who was one and who was purged from the AFL-CIO along with his UAW by George Meany.

Any chronology of American labor history that omits a little thing like the merger of the AFL and the CIO and the attendant purge of CIO's minority of communist leaders is a bit defective. No? Likewise, the election of John Sweeney to replace Lane Kirkland and his almost immediate amendment of the AFL-CIO Charter to allow communists back into leadership is another glaring omission consistent only with those who believe that all unions are communist or that it does not matter or that they ought to be communist. Most Americans know better.

882 posted on 12/20/2007 11:53:21 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemaen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
In SOME small number of CIO unions until the merger in which the AFL leaders successfully required the forced purge of the reds whose activity was generally CIO. The unions themselves prevented communist influence here and, on their worst day, understood the reds and how to crush them better than any paleobimbo ever did or ever would. Reagan was president of the Screen Actors' Guild in the 1940s. SAG is and was a labor union (lions and tigers and bears, oh my!!!) Was Reagan a communist???? This notion of unions as forces for communism is the delusion of the cheapskate counting house wing of the old GOP dedicated to mere materialism. In that way they (aka paleowhatevers/money obsessives) have something in common with dialectical materialists aka Marxist-Leninists aka communists. They are all materialists. They just differ on who gets the gummint on their respective sides to determine the redistribution or retention of the goodies.

The Communists were involved in the Union movement throughout the 30's and 40's.

I didn't say everyone involved in the Unions was a Communist.

For a good rid on the influence on the Communists on Hollywood, read Hollywood Party, How Communism Seduced The American Film Industry In The 1930s and 1940s by Kenneth Lloyd Billingsley.

So, Communism was a real issue between the 30's and 40's in the Unions and had to be rooted out.

What's so curious is IIRC that you were linking an alleged purge of communists by Walter Reuther who was one and who was purged from the AFL-CIO along with his UAW by George Meany. Any chronology of American labor history that omits a little thing like the merger of the AFL and the CIO and the attendant purge of CIO's minority of communist leaders is a bit defective. No? Likewise, the election of John Sweeney to replace Lane Kirkland and his almost immediate amendment of the AFL-CIO Charter to allow communists back into leadership is another glaring omission consistent only with those who believe that all unions are communist or that it does not matter or that they ought to be communist. Most Americans know better.

I am not discussing how the Unions got rid of the Communists within their ranks, only that they were there.

So, the fact that the AFl-CIO had to be 'purged' of Communists shows just how powerful they were throughout the 30's and 40's in the Unions.

It took some Unions longer to get rid of them.

This was not a discussion on the AFL-CIO in particular, but on the Communist influence in the Unions in general.

So, stop blowing smoke-the Communists were a real factor in this nation from 1930's through the 1950's, both in Unions and in Government.

884 posted on 12/20/2007 12:09:02 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Neocons-the intellectual blood brothers of the Left-Yaron Brook)
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