Would somebody please tell me again why we don't see folks getting on the case of those like Glenn Beck--somebody showing religious intolerance to the religious viewpoints of a Huckabee--but gobs & gobs of people...including many FREEPERS along with Beck..."jump" all over Huckabee for the alleged same thing?
Can you spell hypocrisy? Inconsistency?
You’re stretching badly there, again, bud. Glenn Beck said nothing intollerant about any religion.
Why don’t you listen know and see where he is coming from, in a nutshell who raises the std vs. lowers it (the latter Huckabee) Got to run.
I can spell them both.
I also know the difference between a radio host I can turn off and a candidate for President of the United States.
It will be interesting to see the complete article and the context, but this isn't an electoral issue.
People are tired of baptists. You know, carter, clinton and now huck.
This is a rhetorical question...Why did Romney feel he needed to answer questions regarding Mormonism, and then gave a speech mostly on liberty and history. I would dare say not a single person, promormon or antimormon, would deny Mr.Romney the right to run for president. Article 6 remains intact and safe. What Romney wanted was to allay the concerns of evangelicals and fundamentalist Christians who know 'a little' or 'a lot about' mormonism. Toward that end he created more questions than he answered. His remarks regarding "Jesus Christ was the savior of all mankind" is a statement meant to deceive who Romney really thinks about the Christians Jesus Christ. He used a familiar name with a different meaning. Jesus of Nazareth described in the Bible is not the same as the one described in the Book of Mormon. That was the point Huckabee was trying to make by asking a question and perhaps the journalists would do a little research and read what Morman teachings are on the subject of who Jesus Christ is and is not. Freepers are famous, on all points, to point out the deficiencies of 'facts'. Perhaps some enterprising journalist will actually go the the Book of Mormon and answer Huckabees question.
What does Mormonism teach about Jesus Christ?
Mormonism claims that it believes in the true, bublical Jesus Christ. One publicity booklet teaches, "Christ is our Redeemer and our savior Except for him, there would be no salvation and no redemption....". Statements like this have confused some Christians. For example, Frank Morley of Grace Presbyterian Church in Alberta, Canida, actually permits the Mormon Church to publish and promote a lecture by him in support of mormonism. In this booklet he says, "It has been said to me that Mormons don't believe in Jesus Christ! It is such superstitions and misunderstandings we have regarding them, you see, that need clearing up.
The following brief statements by Mormon leaders reveal the true beliefs of the Mormon Chruch concerning Christ. In essence the Mormon doctrine of Christ parallels those found in the world of the occult (hidden mystery religions).
Mormonism teaches Jesus Christ was a created being, not eternal God as the Bible clearly instructs (John 1:1,3: Titus 2:13), and that He was the first and foremost of subsequent billions of spirit children created through physical relations between the male and female earth gods. 'Doctrine and Covenants 93:21-23) teaches that "Christ was the Firstborn, was the mightiest of all the spirit children of the Father." James Talmage affirms in a standard Mormon church work, 'The Articles of Faith', "Among the spirit children of Elohim, the firstborn was and is Jehova, or Jesus Christ to whom all others are junior."
In Mormonism, Jesus is also seen as the brother of Satan. Since Satan was also a preexistent spirit creation of the male and female earth gods, Christ must therefore be considered his relations. In other words, Christ and the devil are "blood brothers". If the devil and his demons were all spirit children of the Mormon earth god "Elohim", it must follow that they too are Jesus' brothers, just as they are the brothers of all men. As J.H.Evans writes in "An American Prophet" (p.241) As for the devil and his fellow spirits, they are brothers to man and also to Jesus and sons and daughters to God in the same sense that we are." In essence the difference between Christ adn the devil in Mormonism is not one of kind, but a matter of degree.
Secondly Mormonism teaches that Jesus is a saved being. Because Jesus was only one more spirit offspring of the male and female earth gods (like Son of God...) He, too, had to earn His salvation: "Jesus Christ is the Son of God...He came to earth to work out His own salvation...After His resurrection, He gained all power in Heaven (McConkie, "Doctrinal New Testament Commentary",Vol.3,p238). And, 'by obedience' and devotion to the truth, He {Jesus} attained that pinnacle of intelligence which ranked Him as a God." This is why McConkei emphasizes, "Christ..is a saved being."
Third, in Mormon teaching, Jesus Christ is not unique, at least in nature. His divinity is not unique, for every exalted man will attain the same godhood that Christ now experiences. Neither is His incarnation unique, for Christ, like all men, is only an incarnated spirit man, who in a preexistent state was the offspring of suxual union between the male and female earth gods who made Him.
Mormons do refer to Christ as a "greater" being than other spirit children of the male and female earth gods, but only on this earth. Further, Christ is their senior only by priority and position, not nature or essence. In fact, as a spirit child of the earth gods, He is of the same exact nature as all men and all demons; this is one reason Mormons refer to Him as thier "elder brother". And so, Jesus is mans "spirit brother". We dwelt with him in the spirit world as members of that large society of eternal intelligences, which included our Heavenly Parents", (McConkie,"Mormon Doctrine, p. 169).
Christ is also not unique as Creator of this earth. Mormonism teaches that the prexisting spirits Adam and Joseph Smith, plus others helped him create it. (Mcconkie, "Mormon Doctrine" p.169). In Mormanism, Christ was unique in nature in only one way-by His physical birth. Rather than having a merely human father as the rest of us on this earth, His mother had physical sex with God (Elohim).
Fourth, as noted above, Mormons accept the birth of Jesus Christ through sexual intercourse between God (Elohim) adn Mary. Because "sexuality...is actually an attribute of God...God is a procreating personage of flesh and bone and the Holy Ghost was not the father of Jesus (Carlfred B.Broderick in, "Dialogue; A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn, 1967, pp.100-101). In "Doctrines of Salvation, Joseph Fielding Smith asserts, "Christ was begotten of God. He was not born without the aid of Man and 'that Man' was God. McConkie declares, "Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father the sam way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers."
In other words, Mary was apparently a bigamist-married to both her husband, Joseph, and God Himself. Brigham Young confessed, "The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not , that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary, the wife of Joseph, had another husband [that is, God].
Fifth, some Mormons have also taught that Jesus Christ was a plygamist haveing several wives, another unBiblical doctrine. The early Mormon apostle Orson Pratt claimed that Jeus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary and Martha (and others) were His wives, and that He had children. Thus Jesus was a "Polygamist" and one of many gods who earned His salvation, immortality, and godhood.
This is the Mormon Jesus Christ of whom Mormons teach. Pratt says Jesus was married to many honorable wives (Pratt, 'The Seer' Nov.1853, Vol 1, p172).
This is the Mormon "Jesus Christ". But biblically, all of this is false. Jeus Christ is God. He is eternal, and was therefore never created (John 1:1-3; Colossians 1"16-17; Isiah 9"6,Micah 5:2). Further, Jesus Christ is not the brother of the devil. He came to destroy the works of the devil (I John 3:8). He was not a man who earned his salvation; He was God who (through the incarnation) died on the cross for other men's salvation (1 Peter 2:24). He never married, nor was he born by sexual intercourse between a pagan god and the virgin Mary (John 1).
In fact not a single biblical Scripture can logically be advanced by Mormons in defense of their teaching on Jesus Chist.
Mormons are sinsere in their belief that they are Christians and believe in the Biblical Jesus Christ. Yet they preach another gospel, another Jesus Christ, (certainly not the Jesus of the the Bible, not Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God, not the Alpha and Omege,not Jesus of Nazareth, (not Jerusalem), the virgin born only Begotten Son of God.
Mormans teach another Jesus. The information is easily obtained on the teachings of Mormon temple rituals (endowments) and other teachings on this subject.
I thank God (of the Bible) we live in a Constitutional Republic, not a theocracy, where Mitt Romney can believe what he wishes. As a fundamentalist Christian I recognize every persons right to their religious beliefs. However, I do believe that when Mr. Romney makes statements which he knows is deceptive (he is a Bishop in the Mormon Church, he is a temple Mormon, he is well versed on all of these matters discussed) in creating the impression that he believes in the same Jesus as the Biblical Jesus, that is wrong and should be discussed by people concerned with the truth.
I won't get into an ugly arguement with any Mormon on this thread. I quoted your own documents and your own prophets and apostles and publications. If you denounce these Mormon assertions that is fine. If you hold to these statements that is fine.
Evangelicals have this uneasiness regarding Mr. Romney. He seems like a wonderful person in his presentation to the public. He seems to be a devoted family man. On some points he has a conservative history and some more liberal, but that is the politics. But many evangelicals understand he took a blood oath in his the taking of his endowments to to place no authority above the leadership of the Mormon Church. Understanding this rigid requirement of the Temple Mormon begs the question as to the Oath to the Office of the Presidency to the fidelity to the Constitution of the United States. I will not go into any of the Mormon history regarding its prophets and apostles affirming its plans for the United States of America. That information is available to anyone who wishes to look. So who does President Romney have ultimate and penultimate devotion to...the Constitution or the Mormon Church Authorities to whom he has sworn a blood oath. These are weightier matters to consider than what Mr. Huckabee tangentially alluded to in his answer to a New York Times reporter.