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Reasoning with the Ron Paul Cult is like?
12/11/07

Posted on 12/11/2007 10:32:20 AM PST by april15Bendovr

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To: tacticalogic
Ah, yes. The old "if you're not in favor of a federal law against something, then you must be in favor of people doing it". Nice.

Well, you vote against it, yes you're against it. Not to the Ron Paul cult, that's what cults are about. Aren't they.

Nice, well yes, the abortionists think it rocks!

There's something in the Constitution about this, I know, fill me in, along with Ron Pauls vocal objections to the Mann act.

121 posted on 12/11/2007 5:15:02 PM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: reasonisfaith
The only point of contention here is that of self preservation.

How is the outcome of the Iraq war and self preservation related in any meaningful way? Yes if we pull out now and Iraq goes to hell in a handbasket that will tend to make things in the US less secure, but it will not result in the immediate anhiliation of the US.

Ron Paul is an incompetent nut because he is unable to recognize the need for self defense.

All that I read says that Ron Paul is one of the strongest defenders of the Second Amendment and our right to self defense. On this particular point I agree with him. I suppose that makes me a loony too.

122 posted on 12/11/2007 5:15:43 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SJackson
There's something in the Constitution about this, I know,

Well, then under what enumerated power do you think the federal government would enact such a measure?

123 posted on 12/11/2007 5:21:01 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: april15Bendovr

Trying to convince Ron Pual that he did not write the Constitution.


124 posted on 12/11/2007 5:21:41 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You know exactly what I mean. The Iraq war is all about self preservation and Ron Paul cannot understand that.

You know very well I wouldn’t say such a thing about 2nd Amendment supporters. (I support it more than you do—how about that?)

Your comments are like the fox caught in a trap, who out of vanity tries to distract attention from the fact that he is indeed caught.


125 posted on 12/11/2007 5:22:12 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: SJackson
The Mann Act is an interesting thing. You take something like prostitution which one hopes that states would have the ability to prosecute, you add a little detail like where the prostitute ended up, and all of a sudden you need the FBI.

If a prostitute is transported from Nevada to California is it not possible for the states of Nevada and California to work together to see that the prostitute and the associated pimps and johns are brought to justice? Do we really need the FBI to get in on this?

The Supreme Court just upheld a state judges ability to use his common sense judgment to determine the sentence of a convicted felon while being guided by, but not bound to federal sentencing guidelines.

I realize that it was a bunch of us nut job conservatives in the 70's and 80's, in response to a bunch of nut job liberal judges handing out ridiculously lenient sentences, that led to all of these federal guidelines. But can we admit our mistake? Can we look at what has happened and ask the simple question: what the heck is the federal goverment doing spending federal tax dollars on state and local crime enforcement? Why are states grabbing their ankles and bending over to let the feds tell them what to do?

Does the term "states rights" have any meaning anymore? Are we now down to only eight bill of rights?

126 posted on 12/11/2007 5:24:11 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: april15Bendovr

Trying to convince a Statist that the USA would be a better place with a limited federal government.


127 posted on 12/11/2007 5:31:09 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: april15Bendovr

Reasoning with the Ron Paul cult is like...

...evangelizing Christopher Hitchens.

...teaching a cat to read.

...arguing the merits of Eastern NC vs. Lexington style barbecue anywhere in the Jewish or Muslim world.


128 posted on 12/11/2007 5:37:15 PM PST by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Now you’re just being willfully ignorant.


129 posted on 12/11/2007 5:38:59 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: reasonisfaith
"The Iraq war is all about self preservation"

You've proved my point. You are a loony and impossible to have a reasonable argument with.

"I support it more than you do—how about that?

A bold assertion which you have no way to prove.
I imagine there are a number of people housed where you currently are that boldly state things like "I am Napoleon" or "I must wear this aluminum cap to keep out the government mind control rays."

tries to distract attention

Sorry for trying to distract attention by using logic. I know that it is in relative short supply around here and at your current place of residence.

Follow the doctors' direction and keep taking those meds until you're ready to return to normal society.

130 posted on 12/11/2007 5:41:53 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Cyber Liberty

Admit it, you’re just embarrassed that it was necessary for somebody to have to publicly explain something to you that is so elementary to most.


131 posted on 12/11/2007 5:44:03 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: april15Bendovr

Reasoning with the Ron Paul Cult is like trying to convince your mom and dad that pot is good thing.


132 posted on 12/11/2007 5:49:16 PM PST by TBall
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To: TBall

Sadly in many parts of the country parents are buying pot from their kids.


133 posted on 12/11/2007 5:57:38 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
No doubt, the kids probably trade the pot for booze. Sad symbiosis.
134 posted on 12/11/2007 6:01:16 PM PST by TBall
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Does the term "states rights" have any meaning anymore? Are we now down to only eight bill of rights?

Of course not, the Mann Act has nly visited the Supreme Court five, maybe only four times.

We need another to protect the right to transport minors over state lines to procure abortions without parental consent.

Go Ron Go!

Can't get an abortion in your state, buy one next door, transportation provided, and mom and pop won't know a thing.

Go Ron Go!

Think they'll put that on the blimp?

You're support of abrotionists in the name of the Doctor candidate is noted.

135 posted on 12/11/2007 6:13:19 PM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: tacticalogic
Well, then under what enumerated power do you think the federal government would enact such a measure?

The Supremes having ruled a number of times I'd suggest you ask them.

On a personal note, your support for transport of minors for the purchase of an abortion, or nose job, or tatoo, or boob job without parental consent is noted.

tacticalogic and Ron Paul represent a new wave in teenybopper rights.

BTW, tacticalogic, who foots the bill for this stuff.

A twelve year old gets an abortion under the Ron Paul exemption, without parental consent, thing go wrong.

The responsibility of the parent, or does Ron Paul and tacticalogic kick in.

136 posted on 12/11/2007 6:20:09 PM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: SJackson

GWB has issued a public statement that he will veto HR 1592 (the “hate crimes” bill) because he says he thinks it’s “constitutionally questionable”. Do you plan on joining the inevitable liberal screeching that he’s “supporting hate crimes”?


137 posted on 12/11/2007 6:25:35 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

“Follow the doctors’ direction and keep taking those meds until you’re ready to return to normal society.”

There are two possibilities here. According to logic.

You’ve either diagnosed me with a mental disorder using standard medical criteria, or you’ve hurled meaningless insults in desperation.


138 posted on 12/11/2007 6:58:17 PM PST by reasonisfaith (A liberal will never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs)
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To: tacticalogic
GWB has issued a public statement that he will veto HR 1592 (the “hate crimes” bill) because he says he thinks it’s “constitutionally questionable”. Do you plan on joining the inevitable liberal screeching that he’s “supporting hate crimes”

Well, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

I am one of those pig ignorant cretans who don't support Paul.

Which means, guess what!!!!

I've commented on this topic already, but I acknowledge this means nothing to a Paul cultist.

So, the question you avoided.

Ron Paul supports the right of a minor, any age, to cross state lines to purchase an abortion, presumably a boob job, tatoo, drugs, chin lift, drugs, whatever; without parential permission.

tacticalogic is left with the choice of either supporting the Ron Paul position, what the hell business is it of parents when the 12 year old wants and abortion, or bitching and whining about HR1592.

Where the hell is your head at.

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AM, if someone complains about the language, if left out the ***'s, I stand by every word I said.

139 posted on 12/11/2007 7:32:27 PM PST by SJackson (we're gonna change the rules and have voting only on the Internet, then we're gonna win!, Ron Paul)
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To: SJackson

In other words, you figure you’ll just bluff and bluster your way throgh the obvious problems with your arguments and your “reasoning” when it becomes apparent they’re full of holes. Chest pounding, foot stomping and finger wagging. Nothing more.


140 posted on 12/11/2007 7:37:10 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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