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To: Sopater

Did you read the article? The school has decided it WILL honor it, so how can you “side with the school” and also say you “wouldn’t honor it”.

Personally, I don’t think a public school has any business second-guessing ANY orders approved by both the child’s doctors and parents. But I do have a problem with public schools having children in this condition attending in the first place. I’m sure she attends with full time aide, at massive cost, and her presence is no doubt quite disruptive to the education process that is supposed to be going on.

If doctors have determined that there is no possibility that this girl will ever grow up, much less be even partially self-sufficient, then there is no benefit to having her “participate” in a school program that is designed specifically to prepare children for self-sufficient adulthood. This is political correctness gone mad. If she seems to actually enjoy going out and being with other children, she could do that in a special program designed to meet the needs of severely disabled children.


23 posted on 12/10/2007 10:25:18 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

So it is fine to force people to watch your child die without allowing them to do something?

That is just outrageous. If someone wants their kid to be “allowed” to die, perhaps in great pain, then THEY should take the moral responsibility and be there for it themself, not pawn the responsibility on others. I guess the damage it might to do other children and the teachers is meaningless.

How foul.


31 posted on 12/10/2007 10:31:27 AM PST by Politicalmom (Huckabee is the GOP's Jimmy Carter. Are you ready for the plundering of your pocketbook?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
According to the email I received from "EdNews.org" -
Chicago Public Schools is to ignore such orders and do everything possible to save a child's life, officials said.
This does seem to conflict with the info in the article:
School nurses will be allowed to use suction to ease Katie's breathing and give her oxygen with a mask. The child can be positioned in a way that makes it easier to breathe. But they will not perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation or use a defibrillator. Nor will they intubate her, a procedure that puts a flexible plastic tube down the patient's throat to provide ventilation.
So, I was agreeing with the info in my email from EdNews.org. Thanks for pointing out the intentions of the school.
44 posted on 12/10/2007 10:35:05 AM PST by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
But I do have a problem with public schools having children in this condition attending in the first place.

Yes, I agree. The purpose of school is to get kids to the point of self-sufficiency and prepare for adulthood. They do that by providing education. This seems more a case of baby-sitting, all at the taxpayer's expense. I take care of a child who is neurologically devastated. Every year, he takes a test mandated by the state, and a result of No Child Left Behind. One test consists of him identifying colors. Since he is "taught" in the home, and he can't take a written test, the teacher brings a video camera, sets up various colored objects, tells him to "put his hand on the orange ball", takes his hand and places it over the orange ball, and thus, he "passes".

This child is almost 14 years old, a victim of his father (shaken baby syndrome), and wasn't supposed to have lived past 1 year of age. Due to excellent care, he has lived much longer, but has deteriorating brain matter, and could go at any time. He is a DNR as well (in my opinion, this is appropriate).

195 posted on 12/10/2007 12:00:39 PM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

That is true, the “school” decided - but not all the staff and faculty. Surely there are some who would object, but majority rules.

This is a life-or-death question, and some people, no matter what the majority think, just don’t want to make that choice. Their morals say you must help no matter what, as life is more important.

The school order of honoring the DNR is still forcing some people against their own wills to honor what they find reprehensible.


240 posted on 12/10/2007 1:00:55 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

speaking of READING the article:

“The school is part of the Special Education District of Lake County, ....” as in it is ALL Special Ed students, mostly equally handicapped, so no ‘normal’ students’ educations are being disrupted.

It seems the school district opposed the DNR for two years before finally acceeding to the wishes of the parents and the doctor. The alternative was likely a lawsuit that would outlive the child and her parents, but would cost the school district many millions more.


291 posted on 12/10/2007 5:06:29 PM PST by EDINVA
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