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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
So this shooter had dreams and heard voices....he was evidently demonically oppressed or possessed.

Hearing voices is a sign of mental illness, not demonic possession. This is 2007, not 1007.

Always difficult to deal with but you'll have a lot more luck with modern psychotropic drugs than with an exorcism or cutting a hole in the skull to let the demons out.

2,431 posted on 12/12/2007 5:10:29 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Bias and lack of research are poor survival habits.

Ignoring warehouses full of solid evidence is, at some point, inexcusable.


2,448 posted on 12/12/2007 6:13:51 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Strategerist
Always difficult to deal with but you'll have a lot more luck with modern psychotropic drugs than with an exorcism or cutting a hole in the skull to let the demons out.

I'm not sure how the year determines whether or not there is a super/sub-natural. But an interesting idea. Perhaps the supernatural dies. Oh wait, that doesn't make sense. Must just be your presuppositions showing.

2,452 posted on 12/12/2007 7:31:56 AM PST by the808bass
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To: Strategerist

Yes, know that these types of drugs can produce the voices also.

But have personal knowledge of a young man so “possessed” or “oppressed” - spookiest thing I have ever witnessed. He was into the satanic music scene and listened for hours on end to that “death metal” music.

When he slept, he would elevate...lift his rear and back off the bed....propped up with his head and his legs....Off the bed....for a LONGGG time....as if held there. And he would be shrieking in the most horrendous sounding voice possible. Yet he never woke up or realized what he was doing. He was not on any medication at that time. Had been on ritalin earlier in his life - but not then.

That was, imho, demonic possession/oppression. His parents finally filmed it and showed it to him and he got straight really quick....scared the hummy out of him....stopped with the music immediately. (no did not get an exorcism).

He’s now married and raising a child and working (before he could not keep a job).

Certainly the demons of hell are happy to oblige by helping “troubled” people who have opened themselves up to such influences sp as to push those individuals - if the keep that door open - into self destruction and destruction of others.


2,576 posted on 12/12/2007 9:06:42 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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