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To: spunkets
That's correct. It also included any music, radio and TV.

Once again, though I hate having to constantly repeat myself, this is not possible. The fact that they had DVD players, CD players and game consoles in their home, necessarily implies that they had DVDs, CDs, and games to insert into these electronic boxes. What's more, in the link you just pointed me to, he talks about his mother going through his collection of CDs DVDs and video games and removing the ones she doesn't want him to have.

Bottom Line once again: She never forbid ALL music, movies and games in her house. She just threw out certain ones. Sounds pretty normal to me! This is what we've done with our kids. On this single issue of "electronic entertainment," the only thing he claims his mother did, that we ourselves have not done with our kids, is to ban all Christian music CDs that are not worship CDs. I do find that too strict, but still light years short of "child abuse," which is the end result we're trying to establish here.

How about feeding the kid moldy food and cereal dug out of the garbage disposal.

I read the entire post you linked to, and never found this claimed anywhere. Was this some other forum poster you're mixing him up with perhaps? I'd like to see the actual claim before I comment.

..... Bill Gothard's programs AND .... [long list of other Christian authors]

I've not been exposed to Gothard, but if half of what I've read about him is true, he pushes a very legalistic doctrine. If MM was subjected to a very legalistic regimen, then I would tend to agree that this was a poor parenting choice on his mother's part, though we of course are second guessing her based on a minimum of facts, a heavy slanting of the few facts we have, and no opportunity to hear her side of the story.

But still, "poor parenting choices" are not equivalent to "child abuse," or else I'm guilty of child abuse hundreds of times!

There are other points of disagreement I want to make about your post, but I need to turn in for the night. BOTTOM LINE SO FAR: Still nothing remotely approaching child abuse demonstrated here.

2,419 posted on 12/12/2007 1:19:42 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Sorry, I don’t buy the

mere “poor parenting choices.”

Poor parenting choices have

NEVER

in my 30+ years of counseling produced such a product as a child.

NEVER.

not ever, not once.


2,447 posted on 12/12/2007 6:11:38 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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