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Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church
Fox News ^ | 09 DEC 07 | Fox News

Posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:26 PM PST by aomagrat

Edited on 12/09/2007 12:59:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[I waited 45 seconds and actually posted something substantial--Ed.]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — At least four people were shot outside of a Colorado Springs church on Sunday, but it was not immediately known whether the shootings were related to an earlier shooting about 70 miles away, authorities said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: antichristian; assam; banglist; bombs; christian; christianpersecution; church; churchshooting; colorado; coloradosprings; enemedia; goldencompasskiller; hatecrime; hometown; ieds; newlifechurch; persecution; tedhaggard; thegoldencompass; wonderwoman
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To: DaveLoneRanger

There was a LOT disclosed about Haggard . . . plenty, imho.

And then when he had the audacity to whine about money, the overseers came down on him even harder . . . fittingly.


1,581 posted on 12/10/2007 1:19:24 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ExSoldier

Glad she was there. I just heard on Fox that she shot him twice - after the first shot he went to reach for a grenade or bomb (they weren’t sure what it was) and she warned him not to do it and then shot him again.


1,582 posted on 12/10/2007 1:20:58 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: pollywog

WONDERFUL.

Thanks and for the link.

I agree.


1,583 posted on 12/10/2007 1:21:16 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ExSoldier

AMEN! MORE POWER TO YOU.


1,584 posted on 12/10/2007 1:23:13 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I worked as a computer programmer for many years coding in COBOL. We had to enter the letters in caps for them to be recognized by the compiler which translated the words into computer executable instructions. We also had to use ‘ instead of “ for our literals.

When I first started programming, we had to literally print the words and letters on paper coding sheets to be keypunched into cards. I’ve developed the habit of printing everything instead of using cursive writing because it is easier to read and I had to do the coding that way anyhow.

I have no problem typing or reading caps because thats how I worked for several years.

I have also suffered abuse from the self righteous individuals who haven’t had my 35+ years experience in working with computers.

The best thing to do is simply ignore them because they know no better.


1,585 posted on 12/10/2007 1:28:08 PM PST by dglang
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To: RDTF

What kind of parents do Matthew Murray have?? Divorced?? Christian??


1,586 posted on 12/10/2007 1:29:46 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

I don’t know


1,587 posted on 12/10/2007 1:31:36 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: Strategerist

The media have pulled which reports? The link RDTF provided to the other thread, which links to the article at “MyFOXColorado”...

Here is the first paragraph of the article:
LATEST UPDATE 11:44 a.m.:
FOX 31 has confirmed from sources that the shooter was 24-year-old Matthew J. Murray of Englewood.

As for posts dropping off... This thread has only had 2 new pages (200 or so posts) since I logged off last night around midnight. I think the dropoff in posts can be attributed to the fact that it’s a Monday morning vs. a Sunday afternoon/night. After all, most people who were posting yesterday are probably at work...


1,588 posted on 12/10/2007 1:34:26 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Ann Archy

Some more details. Press conference at 8PM (mountain, I presume) with both Police Deparments. Thus clear it was one shooter and everything indicates it was Murray.

Was indeed homeschooled. Took one class at Colorado Christian University last year and dropped out.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_7682958?source=commented-news


1,589 posted on 12/10/2007 1:36:14 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Both Liberty Rocks and your comments K4 have been very cogent and excellent points of view. Who knows the answers for sure why kids do these shootings... perhaps that evil dark influences are the driving forces. Notice how these shooters end up killing themselves too....it’s similar to suicide bombers on a mission and they serve their purpose killing others and themselves dying as their endgame in their twisted pursuit of purpose.


1,590 posted on 12/10/2007 1:37:52 PM PST by tflabo
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To: tflabo
Notice how these shooters end up killing themselves too....it’s similar to suicide bombers on a mission and they serve their purpose killing others and themselves dying as their endgame in their twisted pursuit of purpose.

I don't think there are any similiarities at all, really; these kids typically have a long history of serious mental problems, while studies of Palestinian suicide bombers finds them to generally have been completely sane.

1,591 posted on 12/10/2007 1:39:28 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

One can say that Hitler’s SS henchmen were completely sane too. They knew what they were doing in murdering innocent humans for their twisted greater cause. Good point.


1,592 posted on 12/10/2007 1:42:51 PM PST by tflabo
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To: pollywog; Quix
This Is My Father's World - Indiana Wesleyan University Chorale
1,593 posted on 12/10/2007 1:43:19 PM PST by yorkie ( For God so loved the world........................ that He didn't send a committee.)
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To: LibertyRocks; All

Fox home page:

News station reports that shooter is son of prominent Englewood, Colo., surgeon; 2 teen victims identified


1,594 posted on 12/10/2007 1:43:58 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: yorkie

Yorkie, that was absolutely beautiful!!! So heartwarming to see young people committed to Jesus Christ!!
I was raised in in the Nazarene Church , which was a branch off of the Wesleyan doctrine...Didn’t know they had a University.

Thanks...
Polly


1,595 posted on 12/10/2007 1:48:53 PM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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To: tflabo

You don’t have to be insane to be evil, of course.


1,596 posted on 12/10/2007 1:58:31 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: tflabo

If there is a common thread in a lot of these shootings it may be the frustration of a teenage/early 20s male with limited social skills who simply isn’t getting any, especially when you perceive that lots of other guys are.

I never contemplated going on a shooting spree, but when you’re that age it’s an unbelievably frustrating preoccupation.


1,598 posted on 12/10/2007 2:03:33 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: LibertyRocks

witnesses on Fox saying he was in a black ‘trenchcoat’


1,599 posted on 12/10/2007 2:04:43 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: All

FOX:

Breaking News >> AP: Same Gunman Behind Shootings at Megachurch and Missionary Training Center in Colorado


1,600 posted on 12/10/2007 2:07:45 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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