Posted on 12/02/2007 9:28:01 AM PST by Graybeard58
Yes, he won against Carter in 1980. He wiped out Mondale because the people could still remember Jimmah.
Obviously. Never claimed otherwise. I was referring to the 49 state win, which was against Mondale. And Reagan wiped out Mondale not just because people remembered the incompetent Jimmah, but because he was doing a helluva job as President (with the exception of the debacle of pulling the Marines out of Lebanon).
Look to 1976 Steve, that was the defining contest. Guys like Hunter did support Reagan, the rest supported? If they supported Reagan over Ford Fred/Mitt/Rudy are kind of quiet about it.
Who is Steve?
Never mind, I figured it out.
I have always thought that Reaganism left us short of expectations. O’Connor and Kennedy prove it more than anything else.
Only two senators in 1976 backed Reagan in the primary: Laxalt and Helms. I don’t think Reagan had even a dozen U.S. House members for him either. The establishment was solidly for Ford, including then sophomore Rep. Trent Lott.
He is that is not the point of the article.
Too bad we don’t have a Reagan running this time.
How is that again?
Furthermoore, from your own post:
1980 and 1984 is not 2008.
I think that was when the best President in your lifetime started his terms...
Think the name was Reagan...
Not bad if you ask me...
Reagan signed off on Canada/US trade. Not NAFTA.
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“If by “signed off” you mean Reagan was against it you are dead wrong. Every living former president was for it.”
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Reagan signed off on Canada/US trade, not NAFTA. Every living former president was not a traitor.
Reagan was pro trade with Mexico as well, whether you believe it or not has no relevance to anyone but you. I have showed you with link that he was pro NAFTA and you counter with “no he wasn’t” which proves diddley. When you can come back with something to back your assertions, maybe we can discuss it.
I am off to bed now, all out of time to talk with someone who uses liberal logic.
Reagan was pro trade with Mexico as well
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I can claim anything I want, you can claim anything you like, but until you proof that Reagan signed off on NAFTA, you got nothing.
* Forced Japan to accept restraints on auto exports;
* Tightened considerably the quotas on imported sugar;
* Negotiated to increase the restrictiveness of the Multifiber Arrangement governing trade in textiles and apparel;
* Required 18 countries, including Brazil, Spain, South
* Korea, Japan, Mexico, South Africa, Finland, Australia, and the European Community, to accept “voluntary restraint agreements” that reduce their steel imports to the United States;
* Imposed a 45% duty on Japanese motorcycles for the benefit of Harley Davidson, which admitted that superior
* Japanese management was the cause of its problems;
* Raised tariffs on Canadian lumber and cedar shingles;
* Forced the Japanese into an agreement to control the price of computer memory chips;
* Removed third-world countries on several occasions from the duty-free import program for developing nations;
* Pressed Japan to force its automakers to buy more American-made parts;
* Demanded that Taiwan, West Germany, Japan, and Switzerland restrain their exports of machine tools;
* Accused the Japanese of dumping roller bearings on grounds that the price did not rise to cover a fall in the value of the yen;
* Accused the Japanese of dumping forklift trucks and color picture tubes;
* Extended quotas on imported clothes pins;
* Failed to ask Congress to end the ban on the export of Alaskan oil and timber cut from federal lands;
* Redefined dumping so domestic firms can more easily charge foreign competitors with unfair trade practices;
* Beefed-up the Export-Import Bank, an institution dedicated to distorting the American economy at the expense of the American people in order to artificially promote exports of eight large corporations.
Another article that attempts to smear the real Reagan record by questioning his conservative credentials, in order to make a bunch of presidential wannabes look more acceptable. The use of cheap one-liners to define the Reagan policy on several key issues, doesn’t hold up under serious scrutiny. And rolling out 20/20 hindsight only leads to historic revisionism in the end.
No one is demanding ideological purity. Most FReepers just want a true conservative to be the GOP nominee for 2008. We don’t want a liberal, a centrist, a moderate, a RINO or a Rockefeller Republican to be the party standard bearer. So far, out of all the GOP candidates, only Fred Thompson best meets the criteria for most conservatives around this forum. And rightly so.
We see the same types of arguments for each of the latest, greatest RINO. Where’s the Barf Alert?
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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
Posted on 11/15/2007 3:43:17 AM PST by Kevmo
This article is right on. How times have changed..
As has been made clear by more than a few who know what Reagan was about and have not be comprised by an innate attraction to shiny objects.
Where is the rising business class in Mexico? I haven't seen any evidence of that happening. A rising business class usually comes from the middle class of society- the elites in Mexico make sure there is no middle class. What I see in Mexico as far as classes is the elite wealthy, the poor and the really poor. I don't see a middle class in Mexico, the business people I see are from the elite class, and the criminal business class of course but they can't even operate without support and knowledge of the elite. I don't truly see a way up for Mexico without a revolution, it would be nice, but the strangle hold the elite wealthy Mexicans hold on the country- politically and economically is very powerful and the elite will not give up their status and way of life peacefully in my opinion.
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