I agree. And I said I was not going to support him in the primary. I will support him against Hillary, Obama, or the breck girl. I am not going to support a third party, especially if it is some loon like Pat Buchanan who is now pimping his book on Coast-to-coast am.
The major reason people here have anything against Rudy is over abortion. I have trouble with his stand on life. But the sad reality of it is, there isn’t going to be any Life Amendment passed by either House. The only way is to elect some one who is going to appoint pro-life judges. If Hillary, Obama, or the breck girl becomes President, do you think they appoint a Scalia, Roberts, Alito, or Thomas? No.
The best we can hope for is Roe V Wade being overturned and revert to the state level. However, most states would allow some abortion rights. Until people hearts and minds will change on abortion, there is going to be some abortion in this country. I am not going to throw my vote away and get some one elected who turn this country over to the enemies of America. Rudy wouldn’t be perfect, but at least he will fight TGWOT.
I think you underestimate the diversity of the opposition to Giuliani. Abortion isn't even in my top-5 reasons for Giuliani. His sleazy deals, secrecy, and crooked friends, many who he appointed to office, are much higher on my list.
If Hillary, Obama, or the breck girl becomes President, do you think they appoint a Scalia, Roberts, Alito, or Thomas?
No... and neither will Rudy. His record supports my case.
Rudy wouldn’t be perfect, but at least he will fight TGWOT.
You sound like the old Schwarzenegger shills. And now California he is governing to the left of many democrats, all under the (R) label. And he's destroying the CA GOP at the same time. That is the same thing that Rudy will do on a national level.
There are a number of important reasons that libertarians and conservatives don't trust Giuliani.
"Rudy wouldn’t be perfect, but at least he will fight TGWOT."
I don't have much confidence.
The Unlikely Frontrunner - Is the GOP in for a Rudy awakening?
Giuliani spends a good deal of every stump speech stressing the need for America "to stay on offense" in the war on terror. His precise conception of that war, and his approach to foreign affairs in general, is harder to pin down. To the extent that he's amplified his view of the terror war, it seems much closer to the economic determinism of the moderate realist school than to the notorious butt-kicking strategy of the neoconservative warrior class. Indeed, he says the "war on terror" is itself a misnomer; he prefers the term "the terrorists' war on us," which does sound rather more defensive.
"Americans hate war," he recently told the Churchill Club, a gathering of Silicon Valley executives. "We're at war because they want to come here and kill us, not because we want to go there and kill them. We want to do business with them. We would love to have them all wired and part of the Internet buying American products, and then we'll buy their products. And then we'll have the kind of issues we have with China and India, like we used to have with Japan. But those are good issues to have. That's America, that's what America is about."
In the end, he says, victory in the terror war may come down to commerce. "Technology has transformed the world," he told the executives. "Part of the way we're ultimately going to win the war on terror is through that technology. We're going to win the war on terror because, yes, we have to be militarily strong, we have to consider defending ourselves, but ultimately we overcome terrorism when those parts of the world that haven't connected yet connect to the global economy."
Consider China, he said. "China has plugged in. It's still a dictatorship, and they have to overcome that. But they've plugged into the global economy. If you think of where the terrorists are coming from, those are places that haven't plugged in. Ultimately economic freedom pushes you to political freedom. . . . We need to be strong, we need to be determined, but we also need to connect as many of these [Middle Eastern] countries as possible to doing business with us, to being connected to the Internet with us."