Posted on 11/28/2007 8:28:48 PM PST by Eddie01
COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee criticized the Confederate flag, which happens to be hoisted on the Statehouse grounds in the early primary state of South Carolina.
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Both candidates are front-runners in South Carolina. Both may have to answer questions about those comments next time they hit the state.
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well said l8pilot
Hunterite was banned.
Agreed he’s in a class all by himself
Seems more and more like I will stay home in Nov. 2008.
I understand your reaction. However, bear in mind CNN brought this question forward to embarrass the candidates and harm Republican chances in the south or north depending on the answer. It was designed as a no win.
Fred Thompson is a good man. He is my candidate. He is a rock solid conservative. The question never should have been asked. It has nothing to do with presidential issues.
Note that he was in the lead in SC and now he is in forth post debate. CNN did what they do best and it is a damn shame people are so blind to their manipulation.
Best regards friend.
Thank you, Gov. Romney. You may sit down now. Thanks for coming out.
I was disappointed in Sen. Thompson's reply, however. He should have spoken to The New York Times and the NAACP (starting with Kweisi Mfume, who came in to pick up the pieces at the NAACP after all their internal scandals and demoralization) about their using someone else's symbol as a hate-puppet and a bloody-shirt issue, to chum up the black Democratic vote.
Sen. Thompson might have better replied that it was simply a diversionary "bloody-shirt" issue.
He need not have added, either, that the whole purpose of the Confederate flag issue is to try to split conservative Republicans living in the upper Midwest -- in the battleground states -- from conservative Southern Republicans.
Split the conservative vote and get 'em to stay home, and bring black voters to the polls with phantasmagoric visions of lynchings and George Wallace working a crowd of "crackers" -- that is exactly what that issue is about.
Actually, Lyndon Johnson gets most of the credit for blasting the gate off its hinges.
In the 1950's, he fought Pres. Eisenhower's initiative to reduce Mexican braceros working in the States (during a recession) and tried to keep the floodgates open. Eisenhower went around LBJ, who then was running the Senate, by signing executive orders.
In 1965, just a year in office, LBJ blew up the old immigration quota system completely as one of his principal legislative goals, because he knew that Mexicans vote overwhelmingly Democratic when they get into the voting booth. (The split is about 70-30 overall, among Mexican-Americans.)
I don't guess Freddy the Freeloader has been doing much campaigning in Mississippi yet.
I was born in Yankee territory in Illinois, and spent but about a decade of my life in and around Memphis, and now I'm farther away from there than I'm real happy about. But I feel exactly the same way.
Besides, those who fly the Confederate flag upside-down in protest accomplish little. Though I prefer the N.B. Forrest version in which the center star is ommitted.
Nope, and neither do most Americans.
Particularly the 20-million-plus who are citizens and former residents of the Republic of Mexico. A sizable percentage of whom will be voting in this next election.
Please do not use offensive racial terms or slurs in posts at FR. It's a violation of the terms of service, whether you find that term demeaning or not.
You’re about right....I wouldn’t disagree too much with ya there.
Laugh all you want. Mitt Romney fell to second place over the weekend, and Mike Huckster is now in first place in South Carolina.
No one is accurately tracking the Ron Paul votes, because all the polls either eliminate Ron Paul, or rely on the regular Republican primary voters (like me). No one is taking into account the cross-over "Southern Democrat" votes, that are generally Conservative, but who refuse to vote for the party of Lincoln.
The Romney campaign is doing "damage control" in South Carolina, and the South, because they know that "we won't vote for folks who insult us".
Take it for what you want. I host an AM Radio Talk Show in Columbia, and Mitt Romney has committed "political suicide" in the South. The revulsion toward Fred Thompson is almost worse, because my listeners considered him a "fellow Southerner".
Laugh all you want, but the votes tell all. Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul have been the beneficiaries of Mitt Romney's bigotry and Fred Thompson's betrayal.
FSI
Larry Salley
Yep, they made a mistake here.
Then get your federal government out of our elections, our schools, and our lives. Stop taking half of our income. We paid "reparations" until the 1950's. Stop forcing your secular-humanist, athiestic Supreme Court decisions on my State. Stop using your IRS to try to tell my preacher, what he can preach. Stop sending the EPA to tell me whether I can cut timber on my own land. Stop telling my state what flag we can fly over our State House.
If the "civil war" is over,(and it was not a "civil war", it was a war to prevent my family,friends, and state from governing themselves)then get out of our lives.
This may come as a suprise to the professional, Republican Freepers, but what we Southrons want is to be "left the h@ll alone".
That's why I'm voting Ron Paul
Most of us are trying to make up our minds as to when we need to start shooting the b@stards, (sorry, that really sounds radical, but Glen Beck says that it is the most asked question on his show).
We are at a crossroads. Will we continue to be a "nation of cowards"? Francis Scott Key, the author of the "Star Spangled Banner", ended that anthem with a question. "Oh say does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave, over the land of the free, and the home of the brave?"
His son spent four years as a guest of the Lincoln administration at Ft. McHenry as a political prisoner in Ft. McHenry. (His son was a Confederate sympathizer).
Could the answer be, "no"?
Is it possible that we have betrayed liberty for security?
I retired from the US Marine Corps. I took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic". The real question is, "Who are the real enemies of the Consititution?"
I read the Constitution, often. I carry a copy in my pocket, every time I go to Court. (I am a lawyer). I still take that oath seriously. On a very personal level, I am still trying to fulfill that oath.
Our government, our Courts, and our President consider the Constitution as a "d@mned piece of paper". The Washington 2nd Amendment Case is going before the US Supreme Court, and I am betting that they rule against the Constitution. Are we going to remain, a "Nation of Cowards", subjects, rather than citizens? Or, will we rise, and take our country back?
I have lived in the North, and the "left coast", and frankly, I don't think that you live in the real America. It only exists in Dixie.
In Dixie, there are a bunch of "good ol' boys, Scots-Irish hotheads, that refuse to bow their heads to anybody. Call us Rednecks, Christian fundamentalists, Crackers, but we are the backbone of America.
If we have our own country, what will you do for a military?
FSI
Larry
In reviewing the posts on this thread, it occurs to me that we have nothing in common with the neo-conservatives of the Republican Left-Coast or New England.
How can they write that it/'s not about the land, or our communites, or our churches, or our ancestor's graves? They have no clue.
They really don't understand. They can't go to a graveyard, and say, "This is my grandfather, and his father, and his father, and his father". They don't live with the "ghosts", that lead them to join the military, because "that is what we do".
They live transient lives, like tumbleweeds, while we are like the oaks and the sychamores, that plant their roots, deep in Southern soil. When we talk about our own nation, they respond, "Why don't you leave?"
They forget that our families made this land from wilderness, and fought to protect it against their thieving ancestors, who stole our families silver and sent it back north.
I'll take my stand, to live and die, in Dixie.
FSI
Larry
A-trolling we will go, a-trolling we will go......
” Then get your federal government out of our elections, our schools, and our lives.”
Not exactly ‘my federal government’. I was born with it.
If it was up to me, I’d probably be to the right of you.
Stop talking to your imagination.
“If the “civil war” is over,(and it was not a “civil war”, it was a war to prevent my family,friends, and state from governing themselves)then get out of our lives.”
The two constitutions differ ever-so slightly. And being an avid reader of the civil war era,...I think both sides were full of morons. Unwilling to comprimise and prevent the deaths of hundreds of Americans. Such a waste.
“What is a moderate, conservative, libertarian?”
A survey I did a long time ago...said I was a moderate libertarian conservative.
I’m economically libertarian. I favor free-banking (pre-1860...to be exact). I’m moderate on foreign policy but I lean conservative ie I believe in a decent size military and a reasonable foreign policy. I’m mostly conservative on domestic issues.
I would say I’m in the same sort of mind-set as John Adams/Thomas Jefferson, but with a modern view of foreign affairs. That’s probably were I differ with Ron Paul.
“Or, will we rise, and take our country back?”
The greatest thing about our founders was that they revolutionized our political future, and they didn’t have to fire a bullet.
Now I know you’re thinking...yes they did. Well, the war was over independence. When we had it, we had to unifying our country with a Constitution. Our founder’s ideas were just that, and thus the brillance.
I believe if we are to ever succeed in bring government down to a rational size...we have to use our minds, not our guns.
“In Dixie, there are a bunch of “good ol’ boys, Scots-Irish hotheads, that refuse to bow their heads to anybody. Call us Rednecks, Christian fundamentalists, Crackers, but we are the backbone of America.”
My friend sort of thinks that. I myself, feel dillusioned with the right (ie the political figures). Historically they’ve been rather weak, and I wonder why the South continues to support such weak candidates.
I can’t speak for my state, but then again, I don’t control my state either.
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