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Add onto that the fact that this was to see his mistress.

It could have been to go to a whorehouse, and *still* the mayor's security detail remains on duty with him. Like a Presidential Secret Service detail... they go everywhere.

Look, I know that people around here hate Rudy's guts. I've got a few concerns myself. But this is just a lame attempt to spin up a controversy-- hoping that enough buzzwords and turn of lingo will make it sound like there's something interesting happening. But if you actually read the story... there's nothing but vague hysteria over things that when you think about it, aren't all that unusual.

It's like somebody hyperventilating because the Secret Service covers Bush out at his ranch when he's on vacation. Well... duh?

It's like somebody hyperventilating because the Secret Service covers Bush out at his ranch when he's on vacation.

Last I checked, George Bush wasn't cheating on Laura and then trying to cover it up by moving the expenses around to other departments - say $100,000 from NASA, $50,000 from Education, $100,000 from Housing, etc.

You're trying to turn this into whether or not Rudy should have been protected, and it's not going to fly with any of us - we aren't arguing that he shouldn't be protected - most of us agree that it goes with the office - we are talking about his trying to cover up his cheating on his wife by moving the expenses around. The fact that it cost more to protect him while he was cheating outside of town than it did while he was cheating inside of town is almost beside the point, but it should be mentioned.

I have a problem with Rudy cheating on his wife, but Rudy did own up to the public about cheating on his wife, and while that doesn't reduce the sleaziness, that's a little more honest than Bill Clinton.

I have a huge problem with Rudy trying to cover up his cheating by moving the expenses around.

I can never trust anybody who cheats on his wife over and over again, and I can never trust anybody who tries to cover it up by moving the expenses around to various city departments. He's doing that while he's Mayor. God and Bill Clinton only knows what he would do if he were President.

You know what, since you said you had concerns about Giuliani, I want to ask you three simple questions, because I'm very curious about your opinion (well two yes/no and one short essay :-) ).

#1 Do you think it's okay that he cheated on his wife - I'm well aware of what he said when he admitted to cheating on her, but I'm only asking you if you think it's okay - a simple yes or no.

#2 Do you think it's okay that he tried to cover up the cheating by moving the expenses around to various departments that had little to nothing to do with his security detail - again, a simple yes/no.

#3 If you read this story, and it was about Bill Clinton and him doing something similar in Arkansas instead of the Mayor of NYC, what would you be saying right now.