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Regional airlines lower bar for pilots
Ft. Worth Star-Telegram ^ | November 25, 2007 | Trebor Banstetter

Posted on 11/26/2007 11:11:07 AM PST by billorites

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To: billorites

One of the instructors at my old flight school trained in India. He liked to rant about how paved runways are for wimps because he learned on a 500-foot dirt strip.


21 posted on 11/26/2007 11:58:30 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: dljordan

With pilots, the reason there’s a shortage of qualified personnel is the cost of training. Unlike IT, it’s not easy to find qualified foreigners so the only option is to fork over the cost of training.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 12:00:30 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (Is human activity causing the warming trend on Mars?)
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To: billorites; KarlInOhio
How soon before the first thing the pilot says to the passengers is "¡Hola!"? ~ KarlInOhio

That day is already here. I've seen a ton of foreign born flight students training in recent years. Many return to their countries of origin, but some manage to get U.S. flying jobs. ~ billorites

It's the ones that aren't too concerned about learning how to land ya gotta watch...

23 posted on 11/26/2007 12:06:36 PM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: OregonRancher

my cousin’s son is getting $600 a day as a railroad engineer pulling coal trains out of the Rockies.


24 posted on 11/26/2007 12:06:52 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Regulator

I would qualify by hours, etc.

Damned if I would take an 80% pay cut to do it, though.


25 posted on 11/26/2007 12:07:02 PM PST by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: billorites
but it's worth noting that the two big Mexican carriers, Aeromexico and Mexicana, both have excellent safety records

And I have lots of memories of interesting interchanges between Aeromexico and Tucson Approach from many moons ago...lets just say the approach guys were not amused...

26 posted on 11/26/2007 12:09:02 PM PST by Regulator ("No, Squawk Zero Wun, SEEX SEEX")
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To: Bookie1066
You make $22 an hour but you’re limited to 70-80 hours a month

You can make about that much as a shift manager at a lot of fast food outlets - works out to about $11/hour for a full time job.

Folks joked about folks getting a raise when they went from McDonalds to TSA, but it sounds like pilots could get a raise by going to McDonalds.

27 posted on 11/26/2007 12:20:29 PM PST by PAR35
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To: STONEWALLS

Is that from the ARCO near Paeonia?


28 posted on 11/26/2007 12:26:13 PM PST by OregonRancher (.)
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To: OregonRancher

i’m not sure exactly where....the family lives in Colorado....they pull coal East.


29 posted on 11/26/2007 12:33:09 PM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: billorites

Back when I was a young jet instructor in the USAF, we were warned about the multi-hundered hour smugness that would fool us into thinking that we were experts. Only after the first 800 hours or so of instructor (not total flight) experience were we advanced to the point of being considered for bigger and better things. Later, when I was an IP at the AF Test Pilot school, the same thing happened....only with a lot more hours tacked on. The newbies are probably fine...but they must watch constantly for that complacency that can kill. At least, when I made mistakes, I had the option of a “nylon letdown”. Passengers won’t have that option.


30 posted on 11/26/2007 12:34:34 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: billorites
the two big Mexican carriers, Aeromexico and Mexicana, both have excellent safety records.

I trust the pilots more than the ground crew. If the spam hits the fan, the pilot bears the same risk as a passenger and it is their own self-interest to land safely. On the other hand, the mechanic on the ground a feww hundred or thousand miles away only has to worry about their job...

31 posted on 11/26/2007 12:35:37 PM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: STONEWALLS

different mine. ARCO is western slope.


32 posted on 11/26/2007 12:43:26 PM PST by OregonRancher (.)
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To: billorites

I had several offers to be a corporate pilot (actually an F/O) - at $1000 a month but with weird call-out hours - no personal life. They told me that I was “building hours” so that was part of my compensation ... whoop-de-do .... no guarantee of how many hours I’d be able to fly per month.


33 posted on 11/26/2007 1:57:58 PM PST by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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To: Squawk 8888

“Unlike IT, it’s not easy to find qualified foreigners so the only option is to fork over the cost of training.”

I’ve read some stories where some contractors are bringing in foreign A&P Mechanics. I’m a pilot and A&P and I’ve seen some strange things that pass as repairs on some of the aircraft we used to buy in SA. I don’t think a lot of other countries are as stringent in their mechanic’s training as the U.S. is unless it would be Western Europe. You make a mistake here and the FAA will screw you to the wall and won’t even give you a kiss.


34 posted on 11/26/2007 4:19:10 PM PST by dljordan
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To: billorites
Pilot jobs are there...just not where the pilots want to be.

India, the Middle East and Asia are all looking for pilots. Training is available for entry level and experienced pilots, 1st officers and qualified support personnel are heavily in demand. Like anything, you have to go where the jobs are.

35 posted on 11/26/2007 4:57:31 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Tainan
250 hour CFI's are being recruited for teaching jobs in Dubai.

60,000+ a year, plus getting upgrade training in VLJ's.

Not a bad thing for a 25 year old to do for a couple of years. Come back with a few hundred hours turbine time, close to enough TT for an ATP? No opportunity like that here in the states.

Well, maybe not a good idea for a chick with any body piercing...

36 posted on 11/26/2007 5:17:37 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Training centers are being set up in India and soon to be in SE Asia area also. Commercial/business aviation is booming there.


37 posted on 11/26/2007 6:09:33 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Tainan
Some of the best physicians I know trained in SE Asia.

Why not pilots as well?

38 posted on 11/26/2007 6:44:40 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Squawk 8888

Best way to make a small fortune in aviation is to start with a large one. (BTW, love your nick.)


39 posted on 11/26/2007 6:59:08 PM PST by phrogphlyer
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40 posted on 11/27/2007 3:31:20 AM PST by Aeronaut (President Cl!nt*n was the Lounge-Act-in-Chief.)
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