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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I agree with most of your post, not so much pshyco as un professional. I think you can see the "attitude" come out as soon as the folks begin explaining why they didn't think they were in the wrong.

I've been in nearly that same situation. I thought the low speed zone through a small town, ended before it actually did. The officer, a county deputy IIRC, explained where it it did end. I explained why the address on my DL did not match that on the vehicle's registration. (I lived in San Antonio, my wife in North Texas, but when I bought the vehicle I was on temporary assignment in OK City, so we registered the vehicle at the North Texas address, since the "expatriot" period was short, I had not updated the address on the DL, even though I did move out of my apartment in SA, and later moved into a different complex when I returned to the Alamo City.) I was polite, the officer was polite. The officer did not mind me explaining my view of the situation. He gave me a warning ticket and I went on my way. Oh I also kept my hands on the wheel, until I asked and was given the go ahead to get my insurance certificate out of the seat back pocket where I kept it. I don't recall if that was before or after I also had a CHL, which is tied to the DL record, which I found out for certain last Monday when I renewed the DL, and the clerk verfied that I had a CHL.

Both the officer and the subject bear some responsibility for this situation, but the officer is supposed to be the professional. Most I've come in contact, even the guy running a notorious speed trap that has since been done away with by the state, have been polite and respectful. I had a trunk full of guns on that speed trap stop, but he only asked if I had guns in the back seat, which is all I told him about. That was the second time I was stopped with guns in the trunk, and I only had a couple really, but the first time we'd been out shooting at "the farm" and had a bunch, most of which were not even mine, not that it would matter, that state has no registration nor does Texas. I later found out that the local relatives considered that deputy to be of the Deputy Dawg variety, and probably the least bright and with the most "attitude" of all the county's deputies. It helps that I keep my military ID, on the "flipper" covering my DL.

423 posted on 11/24/2007 9:32:56 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Yep, especially since the guy is a 14-year veteran. The cop acted more like a rookie on his first non-routine traffic stop.

I came out too much on the cop’s side because everybody was screaming “psycho powedrunk cop, put him in jail and sue his department into oblivion”, all emotion and not much thought.

Definitely fault on both sides. The thing that gets my goat is that people think that since the driver is not the professional, he carries no responsibility for his assinine behavior. They teach you about traffic stops in drivers ed. Any reasonable person knows that it’s better to go with the flow on a traffic stop than scream and argue the whole way. I’m not saying kiss is a**, I’m suggesting a little mutual respect. No matter how much the officer pisses you off, and there’s some real dorkus cops out there, a ticket is a whole lot better than arrest or racking up further charges.


429 posted on 11/25/2007 6:43:52 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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