Posted on 11/22/2007 7:37:13 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Get out of the car NOW women!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkfkQcb45Lo
“It seems like you are projecting things that you THINK should be there.. but, aren’t.”
I chalk it up to years of careful post incident report editing.
IMO, thats a case where the tazer was warranted and properly administered.
Unless one is threating officer the tazer should never be used!
Even if the person is a jerk!
They are not robbers, rapist, or murders, it a traffic violation for goodness sake!
I don’t know who this new breed of officers are but it is not the America I grew up in and two wrongs don’t make a right.
If he was, why did he have to lie? or is that too "within policy"?
“Unless one is threating officer the tazer should never be used!”
In the case of the link they were trying to take that woman into custody and she was resisting. Started out as a traffic stop but she immediately called someone and would not hang up.
At least the officer in her case warned her.
Why did the officer pull the taser out in the first place?
He did and Massey said he didn't see the sign. When he said that, Gardner told Massey there was another some distance back and Massey said he neither saw that one and asked Gardner to take him back and show him the first 40MPH limit sign. That's when the officer got all bent out of shape. If I were on a jury, the traffic ticket wouldn't stand.
Gardner is one individual in need of a swift retirement or UHP will face huge civil lawsuits - and might just yet.
Because he (correctly) suspected the driver would not comply otherwise? That’s not a guess.
Because he engaged in an act with the driver commonly known as “speech.” You are being silly, go bother someone else this morning.
“Saying put your hands behind your back is not clearly stating that one is under arrest...”
Some jurisdictions ‘cuff everybody for “officer safety” regardless of whether they’re under arrest or not.
That being said, the driver struck me as the type who was used to pointing out where other people were wrong and that being the end of it. He apparently didn’t realize that cops are never wrong because they have badges and tazers.
The officer had not finished saying “turn around put your hands behind your back” before he started to pull out his taser gun. That is a fact.
"Are you making a point, counselor? Is there an issue of a matter of law? I'm afraid if I look at your tie any longer I will begin to feel ill."
“I look at your tie any longer I will begin to feel ill.””
too late, you already made me ill with your insults and condescending comments.
Just watch, maybe in a few moments I’ll make the latest “expert” on this story start whining also.
You might be right... but, I'd like to see some more of that tape. This case IS different, for two reasons...
1) The woman was driving with a suspended license... that's a real problem, and
2) The officer did at least warn the woman that she was about to be tazed.
Still though... he seems awfully excited... I'd like to see what transpired before this to get him so worked up.
The situation needs to be pretty damn serious for a tazer to get employed... I have to believe that TWO male officers could have found a way to make this woman comply without shocking her. They strike me as just lazy, and choosing the "easy way".
This driver could seriously use some training on what NOT TO DO to piss off, or scare cops.... He’s going to get shot some day if he’s not careful.
However... after yet another day of seeing this video... for about the 20th time... and, now reading some feedback from several friends I sent it to.... including several of my detective neighbor’s co-workers... I’m starting to believe that this Massey video might just serve a greater purpose.
When various kinds of people watch.... ONLY people who SHOULD NOT be cops seem to want to defend this officer’s actions. This tape may end up being the best tool we have to identify BAD cops before they hurt people!
True. But when they are on revenue patrol, they have a general idea they are not in danger.
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