[[Let’s go back and replay this conversation.
You said ID was science.
I said, yes, if you also think like Behe that astrology was science.
You said that was a blatant lie.
I produced a quotation of Behe’s exact words saying that astrology was science.
You say you don’t care that Behe did say that and called my statement above “false and misleading”, in spite of it being an exact quotation.
I have a lot of surreal conversations at FR.
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Not playing htis little rabbit trail round and round- this is my last reply to htis issue- Behe’s OPINION about astrology and ID have ABSOLUTELY nothign to do with FACTUAL evidences of the actual science itself- Behe is welcome to his OPINION outside of ID, and I could really care less what his opinion is about it, it is the FACTS of ID science that interest me and nothign esle. Behe could beleive God is an eternally alive orange for all I care- but it’s his FACTS about intelligent design present in nature that are the issue and the heart of ID and NOT his outside OPINION- comprende?
So when I said above that Behe said astrology was science and you said that was a blatant lie, you were mistaken?
I would agree that Christians are unfairly targeted for derision and persecution. Some crosses are worth bearing. Just don’t think this is one of them.
The Bible is a much better tool for spiritual development than historical development. I think that science and faith are very supportive of one another, not in conflict. To try to re-mold the Biblical story of creation into a science, is intellectually dis-honest and spiritually un-necessary.
This attempt of Intelligent Design reminds me of some forms of mysticism that try to attribute the actual words of the Bible to do what is essentially fortune telling. I doubt that was the intention of the writers. Wisdom is not so hidden in the Holy text. Science was not the objective. Spiritual explanations of events and phenomena are not inherently in conflict. Neither, degrades the other.