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To: montag813
I am with you. The “Creator”, who is way beyond our understanding, “created” the universe by establishing the physical laws that the universe operates by. ie., the relationship between the four forces, gravity, electro magnetic, the Strong force and the weak force (much more complicated) determines how the material portion of the universe works.

One example, if when H2O (water) freezes it expands and floats. If it didn’t life would not exist on earth.

ID is a non starter. Should be called SD (stupid Design). I mean how come we have an appendix, or guys go bald at 50, or Autism, you name it. I could have done a better job. Probably mankind will be re engineered by the science developing in genetics. Now thats scary.

You could say that evolution was designed by the Creator.

290 posted on 12/05/2007 7:40:11 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: stubernx98
Probably mankind will be re engineered by the science developing in genetics. Now thats scary.

Scarier than we can imagine.

Thanks for your comments. It is nice to see an atheiest and one with faith agreeing to agree on this subject. "ID" has no place in schools.

291 posted on 12/05/2007 7:45:44 PM PST by montag813
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To: stubernx98

[[ID is a non starter. Should be called SD (stupid Design). I mean how come we have an appendix, or guys go bald at 50, or Autism, you name it.]]

You are confusing intelligent design with perfect design- a common mistake by those who don’t understand the concept of ID. When an archeologist finds a clay pot- or even several clay pots, the ONLY conclusion to be made is that an intelligence created the pots- Are hte pots perfect? Unbreakable? Flawless? No- despite htis, the obvious conclusion is that intelligence went into the creation of these pots- another example is folks who like to point ot Chimps and hteir use of tools- the use of hte tools is termed intelligent use- is it perfect? Are hte tools perfect? No- We live in a state of constant entropy, and nothign is perfect- yet many things are indeed intelligently caused.


305 posted on 12/06/2007 11:13:36 AM PST by CottShop
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