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To: Coyoteman
don't see how you can do science by assuming that supernatural entities of whatever kinds can constantly mess with things.

Nor do I. Do you really think I believe in the gods? Or in Allah, the God of Mohammed? The pope at Regensburg spoke of the difficulty of "dialogue" with Islam because Muslims DO think of God as an arbitrary being. We Christians do believe that He is not, that this is an orderly universe. If you are referring to miracles, do not most of them relate not to the disturbance of order but to its restoration? Men ought to see. To cure a blind man is simply to restore the right order of things. Now most people are more concerned about abundant disorders, because we have come to expect order. .. Pagans think of actions as the whims of many gods, who play with us. Muslims don't have this problem, because they do think that there is a single god but he acts arbitrarily. What happens is simply his will. Our task is to submit to it. I think that the unifying them of the Bible is how we have got away from these notions.

256 posted on 12/04/2007 3:39:55 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
We Christians do believe that He is not, that this is an orderly universe.

Catholics have little trouble with evolution; many fundamentalists see things quite differently.

What I object to is this "theistic science" which the Discovery Institute is pushing. It will have no relation to the science that helped make this nation great.

Scientists would constantly be forced to comply with the dictates of the head theocrat, as a theocracy seems to be what the DI is pushing. Geology can't find evidence of the global flood? Gone! Defunded or outlawed.

I would not like to work under such a theocracy, but that is exactly what is being pushed--there is no other way to enforce such a theistic science.

258 posted on 12/04/2007 3:49:02 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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