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To: Virginia-American

DI has a wholel ist of 700+ scientists who aren’t affiliated with them- they simply signed DI’s statement concerning the issue that Darwinian evolution was a broken and impossible hypothesis and who simply beleive that design is evident and has an intelligent agent- they make no statement about what that agent might be, but throuhg their research have come to hte logical conclusion that MaCROEVolution is impossible, and that intelligent design is evident.


221 posted on 12/04/2007 10:07:44 AM PST by CottShop
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To: CottShop
DI has a wholel ist of 700+ scientists who aren’t affiliated with them- ...

Some are scientists, some aren't -- some work for DI, some don't

Affiliations and credentials

Southeastern Louisiana University philosophy professor Barbara Forrest and deputy director of the National Center for Science Education Glenn Branch say the Discovery Institute deliberately misrepresents the institutional affiliations of signatories of the statement "A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism". The institutions appearing in the list are the result of a conscious choice by the Discovery Institute to only present the most prestigious affiliations available for an individual. For example, if someone was trained at a more prestigious institution than the one they are presently affiliated with, the school they graduated from will more often be listed, without the distinction being made clear in the list. This is contrary to standard academic and professional practice and, according to Forrest and Branch, is deliberately misleading.

For example, the institutions listed for Raymond G. Bohlin, Fazale Rana, and Jonathan Wells, were the University of Texas, Ohio University, and the University of California, Berkeley respectively, the schools from which they obtained their Ph.D. degrees. However, their present affiliations are quite different: Probe Ministries for Bohlin, the Reasons to Believe Ministry for Rana, and the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture for Wells.

Many of those who have signed the list are not currently active scientists, and some have never worked as scientists. For example, Leonard Loose signed the Dissent document at the age of 96, after a career as a high school teacher and missionary, but is listed as being affiliated with his alma mater, the University of Leeds. This is in spite of the fact that Loose's affiliation with the University of Leeds and the scientific community ended over 70 years ago.

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... they simply signed DI’s statement concerning the issue that Darwinian evolution was a broken and impossible hypothesis ...

The actual statement is

We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life. Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged.

Says nothing about broken or impossible. RM/NS *should* be investigated carefully. In fact it doesn't account for all of evo; there's also genetic drift, for example.

... and who simply beleive that design is evident and has an intelligent agent- they make no statement about what that agent might be, but throuhg their research have come to hte logical conclusion that MaCROEVolution is impossible, and that intelligent design is evident.

Through their research!? Name anyone on that silly list who has done any ID "research"

Oh, and BTW, didn't you say something about the DI being a minor player? Fuond any majors yet?

253 posted on 12/04/2007 2:52:14 PM PST by Virginia-American (Don't bring a comic book to an encyclopedia fight.)
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