Posted on 11/19/2007 10:49:55 AM PST by SJackson
The Ron Paul story never seems to end -- and yet never seems to quite make it into the mainstream media. That's because, in the political equivalent of a bank shot, Paul's fringe support helps bleach embarrassing stains from the Democrats.
First there is the revelation that Jim C Perry, the "Orthodox Jewish" head of "Jews for Paul" also calls himself a gay pagan Unitarian.
Now it turns out that Perry, Paul's point man in response to questions raised by the Jewish Telegraph Agency, is also accused of stealing money from the local New Hampshire branch of the Libertarian Party. What a great guy! It's only an accusation. And the "Libertarian" Perry was in 2006 running for New Hampshire Legislature as a Democrat.
Oh yes: Then the federal raids started.
It turns out that some folks actually buy-in to Ron Paul's blither about US dollars being "phony money". Here Paul is talking about "phony money" at a recent Ron Paul rally outside the Philadelphia Mint with a large crowd including -- surprise, surprise, -- some more white supremacists. (Who show they fully understand the New Orleans protocol.)
Some of Paul's gold bug supporters been trying to pass so-called "Liberty Dollars" off as real currency at stores nationwide. Sleepy clerks have given them change in US currency for purchases. Raids have been conducted in the last few days by the FBI and Secret Service at Liberty Dollar HQ in a strip mall office in Evansville, Indiana, (that's not where I would be keeping three pounds of gold, but I digress) as well as Asheville, NC (here the segregationist ‘Council of Conservative Citizens' is very concerned) and a private mint located in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Arrests were also made recently in Wisconsin (on their blogsite, these geniuses detail three places where the spent Liberty Dollars as if they were legal tender). In 2006 two arrests had been made in Buffalo, NY. The Evanston raid netted a huge load of "Ron Paul Dollars" apparently just delivered from Idaho and backed perhaps by the full faith and credit of... Ron Paul?
Ron Paul's Evanston supporters went to Liberty Dollar HQ to protest with Ron Paul-for-president signs. At the Evansville Ron Paul site one of their leaders explains the defense strategy:
"I sent an email to infowars.com, so with any luck we'll make it on prisonplanet.com and go viral. If nothing else should come of this, maybe the LD can get a case before the Supreme Court and settle once and for all and maybe Ron Paul's name will be on more people's minds and lips."
And, yes Ron Paul donor 9-11 "troother" Alex Jones did post it. And it did go ‘viral'. But no that doesn't mean the 9-11 "troothers" are integral to the Ron Paul campaign because ...uh...uh... (insert Paulite rationalization here).
Meanwhile over at Reason Magazine, they seem to have lost all of theirs. Writes Jeff Taylor:
"As such, accounts of the (Evansville) raid focused on the Ron Paul angle seem off-base, at least given the available facts."
Sure, just close your eyes and it will all go away. Let yourself get sucked down the toilet with the frauds, and scammers. Reason wants us to believe that Ron Paul has absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul dollars. But Paul's "troother" supporters believe that George Bush and ‘the Jooos' personally crawled through the ductwork at the World Trade Center to wire the explosives for controlled detonation.
Apparently they didn't get the message at the Daily Paul. Their response to the raid:
"This is pretty scary stuff and reminiscent of a time in Germany...I wonder if the motivation was our wonderful $4.3M day?"
The Street writes;
"...if the raid results in the conviction of anyone involved, it is possible that the Paul campaign may have to return a cash donation made by Liberty Dollar....So far, Liberty Dollar has donated $2,300 to the Paul campaign, a fact confirmed by both Paul's office and Bernard von NotHaus, who runs Liberty Dollar."
No connection there?
No tough questions for Paul, but plenty of fluff. Rolling Stone writes: "Republican takes the lead against the war." This comes after Bill Maher physically chased "troothers" from his studio audience October 19 shouting "out, out, out" and Bill Clinton stared down troother hecklers October 24 with: "An inside job? How dare you?"
The Democrats and their media are using the Paul campaign to scrape six years of accumulated "toother" scum off the Democrat Party, deposit it into the Libertarian movement make a little mess for the GOP. With Obama, Hillary and Edwards all refusing to promise to withdraw troops from Iraq by 2013 Democrats dream of losing the "surrender monkey" tag.
Here is a Chicago Tribune fluff piece with this gem of verbal judo:
"to a growing, Internet-based pool of supporters, the silver-haired obstetrician turned politician is the sanest man at the Republican debates and perhaps in all of Congress. Paul attracts an unusual political potpourri of people of all ages and viewpoints, including a sprinkling of conspiracy theorists and other extremists whose views Paul's campaign disavows."
No anti-Semites, KKKers, or FBI raids in sight anywhere -- just ‘conspiracy theorists'--but all neatly "disavowed." Really? Was that when Jesse Benton -- Ron Paul's national communications director -- said "I cannot say that we will be rejecting Mr. Black's (Stormfront) contribution?"
Well actually Ron Paul appears to be disavowing some contributions: those given by bankers and Wall Streeters. Corporate money is too dirty for Ron Paul to accept but KKK money is not?
The Chicago Tribune also offers this nugget:
"Paul appears financially comfortable but not exceedingly wealthy, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. Most of his holdings are in about two dozen gold and silver firms, many valued at less than $15,000 and none valued at more than $250,000."
Do those firms benefit from the sale of Ron Paul Dollars? Of course they do; someone has to bring in the wrong way crowd to buy gold and silver at the top of the commodities cycle.
Meanwhile the mainstream media is mostly ignoring the cesspool of neo-Nazis, Klanners, Holocaust deniers, and gold-bugs-with-the-FBI-pounding-on-their-door, surrounding Paul. Why? The Democrats can unload some of their whack-job fringe to the GOP via Ron Paul and in their dreams, hang these nut jobs around the GOP's neck like a dead albatross. At the same time they assist Hillary or Obama in trying to move to the center for the general election.
Timing is everything. Paul has staked $1.1 million on the NH primary. His big fundraising push November 5 and now December 16 come conveniently before the Jan 1 reporting deadline. That deadline is too close to the Iowa and NH votes for evidence about Paul's supporters to make a difference.
The hard work is done. The information about Paul is on line neatly organized for even the laziest reporter in America to confirm, write up and look like a genius.
"As if Ron Paul's supporters needed any more motivation to storm the battlements and wreak havoc on the Republican presidential primary, now comes this: the feds are trying to take away their money."
Antonio Gramsci would be very proud.
And an additional article relating to the aforementioned jews4ronpaul as well as the Republican Jewish Coalition, castigated here by Paul supporters as irrelevant, there being so few Republican Jews. This would appear to bear that out, the kind of Jew that currently supports Republicans being unwelcome. Barbara Streisand, are you listening. I presume Zionist Christians are unwelcome as well, though that's not clear.
End the War Now!!!!!
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http://www.lewrockwell.com/gottfried/gottfried105.html
During the last few weeks, I’ve been looking at the indignant notes sent to me from Jews for Ron Paul, a high-spirited group to which I lent my radioactive name, about the crude behavior of the Republican Jewish Coalition and its National Chairman David Flaum. Ron Paul did not receive an invitation to appear with other Republican presidential hopefuls at the RJC’s Presidential Candidates’ Forum. Furthermore, a member of the RJC staff has suggested that Dr. Paul’s movement, which categorically opposes the dispersing of foreign aid and the waging of neo-Wilsonian crusades in the Middle East, had been infiltrated by nasty Nazi types. This particular accusation against Dr. Paul was never proved, although presumably those of us who question the aims of the RJC, e.g., a "US-Israeli alliance" to disseminate "democracy and liberty," must be fans of Hitler and the Waffen-SS. Otherwise, we would be faithfully parroting the RJC, by calling for extensive US military adventures – and even bigger gifts of foreign aid to the "only democracy" in the Middle East.
My question to other Jews for Ron Paul is this: Why would you expect the RJC to behave any differently from the way it does? Like the NAACP, the Armenian Assembly of America, and La Raza, it is a group of ethnic whiners organized to influence foreign and domestic policies. The RJC is doing exactly what it was set up to accomplish, and the discussion of its purpose was put into the extensive treatment of AIPAC and the Republican Party in the Mearsheimer-Walt book on the American-Israeli lobby. The problem is not really the RJC, whose sinister designs are clear enough. The real culprit is the Republican Party, with its questionable efforts at outreach.
Every time the Republican Party, which has the look of a scared gang of WASP placeholders, tries to reach out, it continues to weaken our already eroded constitutional liberties. Unlike the Democrats, who are multicultural, big-government maniacs but who know what they are, the Republicans are merely greasy operators. They pretend to be interested in "getting government off our backs" but expand the welfare state and federal control over education while unleashing costly wars of choice. And they would sell their mothers into slavery to receive the endorsement of the NAACP or to elicit a compliment from Abe Foxman. Although I could not conceive of the Democrats courting Phyllis Schlafly or Burt Blumert, I could easily imagine the big-tent Republicans at Heritage groveling before the ADL. They did it last month.
In a decent small-government Republican Party, there would be Jews for Ron Paul but not the Zionist lobbyists organized around the RJC pushing us into foreign wars. There is in fact nothing anti-Israeli about Ron Paul’s campaign. It is simply raising a different point of view about this country’s relation to the rest of the world. Dr Paul wants neither to "bomb nor to subsidize foreign countries," and his disinclination to subsidize Israel, which has been the most favored recipient of our public as well as private largess, used to be voiced repeatedly by Irving Kristol in the Wall Street Journal. I first encountered that view in the 1980s in Mr. Kristol’s columns, although that eventually-to-be-discarded opinion, just like Ron Paul’s reservations about foreign aid and entangling alliances, may have come from Nazi advisors. Undoubtedly the RJC will soon be discovering who they are.
November 17, 2007
Paul Gottfried [send him mail] is Horace Raffensperger Professor of Humanities at Elizabethtown College and author of Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt, The Strange Death of Marxism, and Conservatism in America: Making Sense of the American Right.
Too funny, E, Jackson posted the link you gave him from an earlier Paul thread. You may have to provide him with other links on this thread so he can post later. LOL
Here you go, whine away.
LOL!
Ron Paul bashing may be emotionally satisfying, but it’s not going to help the GOP win the Presidential election in 2008. And it is very important that we win.
Have you heard that Dr. Paul’s former House colleague, Barry M. Goldwater, Jr., has endorsed him?
Agree with you 100 percent we have to win.
1992 The Year of Ross Perot
2008 The Year of Ron Paul
Are the Clinton’s up to their old tricks?
I am, that's a good thing in a sense since no one he's currently serving with endorses him. At least he's got an ex-Congressman on board, albeit over two decades after he left office.
Of what significance is that? What are Barry Jr's current views, what's he been doing and why should I care? Is this an indication that Paul is changing his view of the financial sector, Goldwater having been an investment banker after leaving Congress. Big coin collector I believe, maybe that's it.
Yeah but I hadn’t seen Gottfried’s letter. He’s got some tough love for Republican big-government politics. Pretty funny. Not sure I’d agree with all of it but some of it is true. Normally, I don’t see much of Rockwell’s columns because they’re no longer allowed on FR.
“Ron Paul bashing may be emotionally satisfying, but it’s not going to help the GOP win the Presidential election in 2008. And it is very important that we win.”
That is why it is important to shut down this freaky Ron Paul sideshow and get down to the real business of the primaries and selecting a candidate who can beat Hillary.
Paul is a joke and a useful idiot for the Democrats. We need to exclude him from debates and focus on the real candidates.
Well actually Ron Paul appears to be disavowing some contributions: those given by bankers and Wall Streeters. Corporate money is too dirty for Ron Paul to accept but KKK money is not?
Corporate donations are ILLEGAL. You're trying to establish a false "double standard," but you don't seem to understand basic facts like that one.
As for the donation from Don Black, I'd love to see him denounce the man and his goals in public, maybe even give back the money, but no one thinks Paul is racist or anti-semitic. It's all guilt by association.
This stuff hasn't caught on in the media because it's intellectually dishonest.
Hey, SJackson, did you notice that the Sci-Fi channel is running some program titled “Storm Front” for 2 hours tonight?
Ron Paul is behind it, no doubt.
Actually the points are on target, as you note he absolutely should return Don Black's contribution (a felon as well as neonazi), any other candidate would. He should immediately halt advertisement of Ron Paul as a columnist for Willis Carto's American Free Press, he should block incoming hit's from Stormfront's fundraising link, and you're not the only one who'd like to see him denounce the ideology of the hate groups supporting him. He'd only have to do it once, any other politician would. And I hope you're right the national media doesn't cover it, because they'll tie it to the GOP, not an irrelevant Paul. As they've done many times in the past. I suspect you're wrong.
As sensible a comment as "sacred magic penises" and "sacred magic hat"
Try getting a humor transplant.
Good video clip GWB
“One true straight talker in this race”. Jake Tapper about RP.
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