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To: SJackson
Well, since he withdrew not unilaterally, but in conjuction with negotiated agreements, which provided for the evacuation of the PLO to Tunis, ceded the southern ten miles of Lebanon to Israel, and boosted military aid to Israel by about 40%


So when Regan brought the troops home, that was not so bad, because PLO relocated to Tunis, and Israel got to keep 10 miles (actually, more like 12 miles) of Lebanon?

Do you know that Israel eventually gave up that 10 miles? And how does having PLO in Tunis rather than Beirut help protect America?

Effectively, Reagan's "negotiated" withdrawal was just saving face. What was key was removing our servicemen from an insane civil war, which Reagan had the guts to do.

Another thing Reagan did: negotiate with Iranians, and even sell them weapons. Traitor? Or wise politician?
249 posted on 11/19/2007 9:02:00 PM PST by Strong_Defense (Don't tax me bro.)
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To: Strong_Defense
I think removing the troops was a good idea, they shouldn't have been there in the first place. While saving Lebanese lives in the short run was an admirable idea, saving the various radical Muslim (and Christian/Marxist) groups wasn't. It would have been better to allow Israel to finish the matter imo.

IMO evacuating the PLO to Tunis intact was a terrible idea. They should have been destroyed. As you know Arafat survived to cause all sorts of problems in the region, as did the 20% or so of his terrorists left behind to form the core of todays terror problem in Lebanon. The buffer zone in the south, a decent compromise, clearly Israel's withdrawl was a mistake in retrospect.

The point isn't agreement/disagreement with RR's Lebanon policy, rather the absurd comparison to Ron Paul. Ron Paul wouldn't have had a hand in negotiating a withdrawl agreement, "saving face" in your terms, he wouldn't have had a hand in relocating the PLO, vetting terrorists who stay, or in handing over the South to Israel, which he clearly would consider a provocation of the terrorists. He simply would have left cold, as he would do in Iraq, with no consideration of the consequences.

It's worth noting he's opposed to virtually all RR's other foreign policy actions, from Grenada to Central America to Afghanistan to the maintainance of troops in Europe. The Ron Paul=Ronald Reagan comparison is absurd.

As to your rather stupid question, no I don't consider Ronald Reagan a traitor, I don't consider Paul one either. If you're interested in the traitor card, read.

Ron Paul: Traitor had direct line to President Reagan

251 posted on 11/20/2007 5:47:42 AM PST by SJackson (seems to me it is entirely proper to start a Zionist State around Jerusalem, T Roosevelt, neocon)
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