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To: Jim 0216
However, I think abortion is a constitutional issue. It's depriving the unborn of life without due process, breaking Constitutional Law stated in the 5th Amendment. Any state allowing abortion would be breaking the 14th Amendment.

I think the due process argument only flies if it is the government itself ordering the abortion. The constitution limits the government, not the people. I have no obligation whatsoever to grant you freedom of speech, nor am I prevented from establishing a religion.

52 posted on 11/18/2007 12:49:32 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: kingu

Thank you! I have been trying to get a better handle on this and you provided it to me.


93 posted on 11/18/2007 1:20:14 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: kingu
I think the due process argument only flies if it is the government itself ordering the abortion.

The Constitution makes no such distinction:

Amendment 5. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment 14. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

103 posted on 11/18/2007 1:35:52 PM PST by Jim W N
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