Posted on 11/18/2007 8:28:46 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
A group of 9/11 firefighters and victims' family members with eyes on derailing Republican Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign is close to a decision on forming an entity that would run issue ads in key early nominating states.
"TV made him a hero, and we'll use TV to take him down," New York Fire Chief Jim Riches told ABC News.
The final decision about the formation of an outside entity will happen sometime within the next few weeks after the group finalizes its plans at a meeting scheduled for after Thanksgiving. So far, though, under Riches' leadership, the group has sought legal guidance and help from political consultants.
If the group decides to move forward, it would set up a 527 committee -- or something similar to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which in 2004 helped sink Democratic Sen. John Kerry's White House bid.
This Monday, the firefighters and family members are holding a meeting at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire hoping to spread the word about what they say is Giuliani's "egregious" use of 9/11 for political gain.
The group also is considering additional trips to early presidential primary states Iowa, Florida and South Carolina.
Riches, who lost his firefighter son Jimmy in the World Trade Center's north tower, said, "We don't want him running on 9/11 or the bodies of all these dead people or my dead son saying that he did a great job that day."
He and other members of the anti-Giuliani group claim 9/11 first responders were given bad radios and that that prevented them from hearing evacuation orders when the World Trade Center buildings were about to collapse. They also contend Giuliani rushed cleanup work and misled people about air quality at Ground Zero, where recovery workers, including Riches, say they contracted illnesses.
Asked to comment for this story, the Giuliani campaign referred ABC News to a statement from Lee Ielpi, another firefighter whose son died on Sept. 11.
"I understand the emotion surrounding Sept. 11, but we cannot lose sight of the fact that it was the terrorists who attacked New York City," the statement said. "On that day and the days following, New Yorkers and the rest of the country were fortunate to have the steady and strong leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani."
He shows up every few months to denounce JimRob for his anti-Rooty forum, but he doesn’t have the cojones to take him on.
He’s a hit and run coward.
Whatever r-Man
No matter how you try to twist my words you won’t find any defense of Rudy.
>>>>>Rudy has been the next president since 9-11-2001. By all means, let there be primaries, caucuses, etc. They serve to confer legitimacy upon the eventual winner, who will be Giuliani.<<<<
That is simply the fact. Not a defense. Deal with it.
I notice that your master took down the Guiliani “Truth” Files???
Look again, numbnuts.
Sorry I didn’t notice you were posting to me earlier.
>>>>>Cee Bass.
Cee Bass Run.
Cee Bass Boost Rudy.
Cee Bass get himself 0wn3d.
Cee Bass run away with his tail between his legs.
Here’s hoping we don’t Cee Bass get his arse banned along with the rest of his Rudy Boosting pals.<<<<
Very cute. A real intellect.
Real conservatives don’t want hillary in the White House. I have never trashed a potential hillary opponent like you and your ilk. If that gets me banned, so be it.
But you boys must be getting desparate. Six months of Rudy bashing and little to show for it. And now you have to rely on moonbat authors for your hit pieces.
Rudy will be the president elect next year at this time. Not a defense, just a political fact. Embrace the horror!
>>>>>I notice that your master took down the Guiliani “Truth” Files???
Look again, numbnuts.<<<<
That’s no way to talk to a retired soldier r-man
Sorry but they’re not on my screen. Maybe the Virginia news is blocking them out. No big loss.
See you around there r-man!
LOL. You’re amusing.
First, Chief Jim Riches has no business using his rank and osition in any political campaign.
Secind, the campaign is probably underwritten by the Firemen’s union. Unions in NYC are all Democrat led and controlled. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Third, I was in NYC on 9-11, and let me tell you - Rudy’s leadership kept the City from retreating into absolute chaos. His leadership was real. Period. If you wern;t there, you cannot appreciate what he did.
Right now, he’s the only candidate who has a chance to beat Her Thighness (Thanks, Mark Levin).
First, Chief Jim Riches has no business using his rank and osition in any political campaign.
Secind, the campaign is probably underwritten by the Firemen’s union. Unions in NYC are all Democrat led and controlled. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Third, I was in NYC on 9-11, and let me tell you - Rudy’s leadership kept the City from retreating into absolute chaos. His leadership was real. Period. If you wern;t there, you cannot appreciate what he did.
Right now, he’s the only candidate who has a chance to beat Her Thighness (Thanks, Mark Levin).
Are you a fireman?
If the group decides to move forward, it would set up a 527 committee ...God bless New York's Bravest. I'll be happy to contribute.
Insults I hurled???
Let’s see...here are just a few of the phrases you’ve used to describe my comments...
“Idiotic”
“Dime Store Psychology”
“Limited Intelligence”
“Stupid”
“Laughably Ridiculous”
The main insult I hurled was “unhinged” which was not aimed specifically at you, but instead aimed at ALL those who would openly cheer for a Left Wing labor union to take potshots at a GOP candidate for President.
And as for you gaining admittance to the “adjoining suite” next to Ron Paul at the “relaxation home” I guess your most recent post just lends credibility to a joke which is turning out to be sadder than it was funny...
Heh. Get it straight. Those weren’t insults, but colorful descriptions of fact. I wouldn’t expect you to know the difference though.
Your comments were laughably ridiculous. Generally, such statements are made by people with limited intelligence. And your use of dime store psychology amuses me to no end.
Feel free to continue. You’ll never bully me into voting for a liberal. But we can all have fun laughing at you while you try.
Ceebass,
Unfortunately, I’m beginning to think that these guys might be right...
Defending Rudy, even if you support another candidate (like Duncan Hunter in my case) MAY get someone banned on this site.
The anti-Rudy crowd on Free Republic is not only substantial, vocal, angry and intolerant of divergent opinion, but it seemingly includes the owner of this website that I have loved so much for all these years...
You know things are getting a WEE bit out of hand when people here started referring to SEAN HANNITY as a RINO...not good...
I’m not trying to bully you into voting for Rudy, I’m merely illustrating the ground on which you are currently deployed.
And as for the assaults on my intelligence, it’s a pretty good bet that you wouldn’t want to compare academic resumes, I.Q. results or SAT scores...
You don't know the first thing about the 'ground on which' I am 'currently deployed'. That's one of the reasons your attempts to insinuate otherwise are so darned humorous.
And as for the assaults on my intelligence, it’s a pretty good bet that you wouldn’t want to compare academic resumes, I.Q. results or SAT scores...
Hey, I'm just commenting on what you're giving me to work with. If you'd like to share your academic resume, IQ results, or SAT scores for me to critique, please, be my guest.
He’s a hit and run coward.///
Your the coward, punk
LOL. You’re amusing.////
Losing on logic. It’s the inane response of losers who lack the brains to articulate a response.
That’s big of you to admit. I too was struck by the lack of logic in all of your posts and came to the conclusion that you did indeed lack the brains to articulate a more intelligent response. I didn’t expect you to admit it though.
As they say, admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting help.
Welcome to FR!
a drive-by troll?
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