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US has no option in a Pakistan nuclear “nightmare”
Agence France-Presse (AFP) ^ | 14 November 2007

Posted on 11/13/2007 9:36:43 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: Prophet in the wilderness

The Chinese most probably designed Paki-nuke codes.If anyone has Paki-codes,it will the PRC & Islamabad jointly controlling it despite the wetdreams of others.


41 posted on 11/13/2007 11:01:34 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
If Pakistan blows up,India will take nuke hits from the assortment of Jihadis who will fight to gain control of what is left of Pakistan-China won’t have to bat an eyelid to see India battered.

You rave on as if that might happen without China taking hits as well. Maybe you need medications to connect you to reality. Get help.

42 posted on 11/13/2007 11:06:04 PM PST by MrEdd (Ron Paul is Ralph Nader for the right...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; kingspoint_83

Whose Air Defense is Pak running under? Russian?


43 posted on 11/13/2007 11:06:56 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: MrEdd

Hits from whom??You are the one who needs to wake up & smell the coffee rather than resorting to insults.


44 posted on 11/13/2007 11:07:19 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: txflake

Mainly Chinese built-with a few American & French fighters thrown in.& Chinese bases are not very far from Pakistan’s Northern borders.


45 posted on 11/13/2007 11:08:09 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: kingspoint_83

Thinning of the herd? A win win proposition for both countries.


46 posted on 11/13/2007 11:08:48 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Is that report reliable? And I’m not talking about the potential Israeli-Indian joint action. After all, Israel knocked out the Iraq nuke facility before Hussein could develop his weapons, why not Pakistan too? Makes, and made, total sense to preempt Pakistan developing them too. Too bad it didn’t happen.


47 posted on 11/13/2007 11:10:13 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: kingspoint_83
I only wrote the 2nd line, and I would not put it passed the Chicoms on anything.
48 posted on 11/13/2007 11:10:19 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: edsheppa

There have been numerous reports over the years of either India or both India-Israel planning to take out Pakistan’s nukes-those same reports said that Uncle Sam was not very cooeperative in that regard & supposedly tipped off the Pakis while shooing the Joos & yindoos away.Israeli aircraft would certainly need basing from India given the distances involved,unlike Iraq.


49 posted on 11/13/2007 11:12:09 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Are you trying to run up oil before your contract expires Friday morning?


50 posted on 11/13/2007 11:17:46 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake
My understanding is that we (The US) hold the codes to launch Pak nukes, they can’t do it alone.

This would be excellent news if it could be verified, but I doubt it's true. I believe the help the Pakistanis received from the US to safeguard their nuclear weapons was confined to advice about a command and control structure. I don't believe the Pakistani military would ever accept US control over their nukes.
51 posted on 11/13/2007 11:34:03 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Well, not that Pak actually knew of, of course :)

There's a reason they don't make a move without our approval.

52 posted on 11/13/2007 11:39:36 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: txflake

Do they ask for US approval for things like

Like arming & providing sanctuary for terrorists against India & Afghanistan??

Buying scores of warplanes from China & developing a deepwater port near their coastline with Iran??

Or inviting North Korean scientists to witness missile tests & visit Pakistani N-research centers,while sending C-130s with N-goodies to North Korea??


53 posted on 11/13/2007 11:43:42 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This is why if one Paki nuke gets in the wrong hands and goes off somewhere it shouldn’t, the a full nuclear response is generated, with the added bonus that OBL and his ilk will be collateral damage. Depending when and where it went off, the US, India, Israel, or GB...well you figure at least one of them to respond with said nukage.


54 posted on 11/13/2007 11:48:37 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

OH, and after that, China would do nothing. They would be pissing themselves.


55 posted on 11/13/2007 11:49:12 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

China won’t need to do much if a city in India or the US gets vaporised-whether we care to accept it or not-All rational governments(which are usually elected by the people) will go to any extent to protect their cities.Which in most cases means appeasing the bad guys.Do you seriously see any point in vaporising the whole of Pakistan,Afghanistan or anywhere else AFTER an American city has been finished.The aim which most pople here don’t seem to be bothered about,is to ensure that the AFTER part doesn’t come about.


56 posted on 11/13/2007 11:53:30 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki; kingspoint_83
Calling names rather than using your head is what an ignorant loser does.

Multiple bogies.....engage......

Sukhoi-30mki - just by the screen name, I can tell you are a commie! :)

j/k, ok?

You said in your post, "...another nuke going off on Diego Garcia & another one going off......."........"What the US or anyone else does afterwards is meaningless."

KP_83, yes, I fully understood the context of what was posted, MAN! And I heard you the first time! Welcome to FR, btw.

Kind of obvious that the US can't do much, shall I call you Captain 'O'?, after the weapons go off, now is there?

India and Pak have had a 'thing' for a long time now. Not news.

The 'news' would be dropping a weapon on DG.

Sukhoi (papers, please...) seems to think that that there is nothing we could do about that, or that what our reaction would be.....is meaningless.

"What the US or anyone else does afterwards is meaningless."

I very much beg to differ on the speculation as to what we would do in response.....

What we would do (or not do) would be huge....penzon if we have a "real" Pres or not.

Which ever way we decide to respond, rest assured, it will not be "meaningless".

57 posted on 11/13/2007 11:56:35 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

Pakistan,China & everyone else have been blackmailing the US with that very threat-frankly,there is little that can be done now rather than opt for a course correction & hope for the best.And that hasn’t happened,yet.


58 posted on 11/13/2007 11:58:06 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Man, these people need a re-education on how things work down south....Asia.

Musharraf, the founder of the most brutal terrorist movement in 90s, sold himself as a “counter terrorist” expert to the Americans. And Americans think he is “moderate” because he wears a tie and a suit and not a “pathan suit”. He is promising action against “al-qaeda” while ably aiding and abetting terrorist groups against India. His history is filled with battle cries, masterminding the rise of a very cruel organization called Talibaan and being responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians and soldiers (and sometimes their family members) across the border.

Americans explain it away by saying “well, as long as he is not killing us or western europeans, we are fine.”

That could at least be logically sound if it werent based on a big myth among American people and ruling junta: that the Kashmir insurgents are different from Al-Qaeda Cadres.

Americans need to realize that the structural foundations of Al-qaeda are quite flexible. Kashmiri Mujahideen are the cadres of Al-Qaeda. The same people who fight against India are doing bin laden’s dirty work against the west.

Maulana Masood Azhar is a prime example. Countless others including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed were all Kashmiri terrorists.

Anyway, Mushy seems to enjoy a high level of support as if his past isnt worthy for him to be shunned. The action of US govt itself is morally grey and seems immoral to sustain this guy with a horrendous background as the only savior of Pakistan, but we have seen the whole thing before after WW-II.

All the cruel nazi and Unit-731 japanese docs who performed live vivisections on humans and injected plague, small pox into healthy humans just to create live cultures, were suitably rewarded for their knowledge by the west. Not one of them was ever prosecuted just because their research was too valuable.

The only message posterity gets from the way evil and wickedness gets rewarded in the world - whether its Musharraf or a Unit-731 doc - one should never be half-way cruel or half-way evil, its better to go all the way and you will eventually be ensured of your welfare.


59 posted on 11/13/2007 11:59:14 PM PST by design engineer
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Ok,so why doesn’t the US finish off North Korea now-or is it waiting for the day that North Korea gets to nuke 2 US cities & then go for the full deal??Get my point-any civilised nation will seek to ensure that it get’s out with the least damage & nukes going off doesn’t help.


60 posted on 11/14/2007 12:00:23 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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