[dschapin]

All this hype about the wedge document is ridiculous. We all have many different motivations for the things that we do. Many evolutionists have made public statement where they talk about how evolution is important for them because it allows them to be intellectually fullfilled atheists. The fact that many people at Discovery Institute may be Christians does not take away from the fact that they make very compelling scientiffic arguments against evolution in favor of design. If evolution is true why does the scientiffic establishment have to a keep a constant scientiffic inquisition going in order to protect people from ideas like intelligent design and creationism. It wouldn’t by any chance have anything to do with protecting people from the truth now would it.

[highball]

All this hype about the wedge document is ridiculous. We all have many different motivations for the things that we do.

You are incorrect. The wedge document is important because it proves two things:

1. ID was developed to fit a pre-existing political ideology first and foremost; and
2. the DI lied about its methodology and intentions.

No small thing there, getting caught in an outright lie.

The fact that many people at Discovery Institute may be Christians does not take away from the fact that they make very compelling scientiffic arguments against evolution in favor of design.

Sigh.

1. There are no compelling scientific arguments against evolution. Behe himself admitted that on the stand (amazing what people will say when they're actually under oath); and
2. ID presumes that Darwinian evolution is 100% correct. All it does is add an external force guiding evolution. ID recognizes the common ancestor, the old Earth, and all the rest.
3. The vast majority of people who recognize evolution are themselves Christians. It is not an either/or.