Posted on 11/13/2007 11:13:48 AM PST by pissant
The American electorate is a fickle mistress. Just ask former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.).
When Thompson announced his candidacy for president just after Labor Day most national polls showed him running a close second behind former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and the majority of state polls had him in the top three.
No longer. Thompson's campaign has yet to take off as expected and voters -- especially in crucial early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and Florida.
The most recent data comes from New Hampshire where two surveys were released over the weekend. The first, conducted by theUniversity of New Hampshire for the Boston Globe, put Thompson in sixth (yes, SIXTH) place with just three percent of the vote. (Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led the way with 32 percent.) In a Marist University poll Thompson again took sixth place with just five percent support. To be clear, Thompson was never a frontrunner in New Hampshire but polls conducted in the run-up to his announcement and just after he formally entered the race show him regularly polling in double digits.
Thompson's shrinking support is apparent in other early states as well. The last three polls taken in Iowa put Thompson in fourth, fifth and fourth place, respectively, and his high water mark in any of those surveys is 11 percent. In Florida, too, Thompson appears to be fading. A new poll conducted for the Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times showed Thompson in fifth place (eight percent) behind Giuliani (36 percent), Romney (19 percent), Arizona Sen. John McCain (12 percent) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (nine percent).
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I responded.
I’m going through this thread in the order the posts appear, so you don’t have to pretend like I’m giving you crickets.
You, on the other hand have yet to address the fact that you thought it was good when Intrade showed Thompson ahead but now you don’t like Intrade when it shows him at 6%. Also, you keep posting nonsense about efficacy but you ignore the efficacy thread. You’re hiding.
Yes. 3rd time answering.
Again I respond. Yes. I’m answering in the order things appear.
And that is a probability statement. The context is important as well, because we were discussing why Fred didn’t get Dobson’s endorsement.
ah so what you are saying is, don’t support fred because of polls, support the one you think is the best conservative.
Yes, but Reagan also enacted Tarriff’s to protect Harley Davidson.
The way I was raised, I focus on pulling the beam from my own eye rather than reading press clippings and saying with Body Snatcher finger pointed "NOT A CHRISTIAN! NOT A CHRISTIAN!"
Ok, I will bite.
***But I am not biting. The context of the statement was over why Fred didn’t get Dobson’s endorsement, I see several pings with Sally suggesting that I’m giving her crickets, but I’m just answering in the order of appearance. So, my plan is to just point her to the context. She wants to make a big deal out of this. If you want to bite on that issue, that’s fine. But that was not the point I was making.
Who is Sally?
But is that your opinion? Fred is not a Christian?
***You just want to have a big fight. Go and take on Dschapin and whoever else bites. The context of what I wrote is important, and the point was towards where the support from evangelicals would land. So go and stir up a hornet’s nest somewhere else.
The context of what you wrote is not clear. You want to throw an accusation and then hide behind context. Now you whine like a stuck pig when I ask for clarity.
Who is Sally?
Can we trust that leaked memo to be a reflection of what Dobson thinks? I sure can
***Then it’s a data point. If I called up Fred and asked some pointed moral questions, I wouldn’t get any answer. Dobson didn’t get anything either. That in itself is an answer, and at least one indication of why Dobson isn’t endorsing Fred.
The numbers for Huckabee are bumping up even without an outright endorsement. If the 50 evangelical leaders + Dobson endorse someone, that person is likely to be bumped into the top tier. I’m hoping it’s Hunter. Hunter wouldn’t lose that 20point bump in the polls.
Is Fred Thompson a Christian, in your opinion?
He also voted for sarbanes-oxley, NCLB and expanded medicare.
***Those don’t sound like big hot-button issues compared to immigration, WOT, pro-life. His trade policy is something that I agree with, and I think the majority of americans would as well — trading with your overt enemy is something you want to keep an eye on. On the big hot-button issues, he’s got it right. On the small hot-button issues, he pisses off the fleecetraders and other money men. So his support is going to have to come from mom & pop.
Fair enough - I actually already settled my disagreement with Petronski on that issue.
and as we all know the country runs on Harley Davidson. :) but in general, he was for whole scale free trade and initiated the Uruguay Rounds in 86.
As for the WTO...no, I’m against that because I’m afraid it could be a global govt that eventually punishes countries for lowering taxes on exporters
Well, “Thompson is probably not a christian” is definitely a grenade—not to mention being viciously ugly and offensive.
***Then I own up to it. As I posted, the context of what I was writing was important. If you’re talking about the endorsement of the unicorn admiration society, it is pertinent to discuss whether one of the bigwig unicornians thinks the candidate actually is a true unicorn admirer. That is what Dobson was discussing in his private email that got leaked, and, tellingly, he has said he won’t endorse Thompson. That is the case, and so if that’s vicious and ugly and offensive, you’ll need to take that up with Dobson.
Answered already, not biting at the bait.
Answered already, not biting at the bait.
Answered already, not biting at the bait.
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