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According to Polls, Fred Thompson Foundering
Wash Post ^ | 11/13/07 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 11/13/2007 11:13:48 AM PST by pissant

The American electorate is a fickle mistress. Just ask former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.).

When Thompson announced his candidacy for president just after Labor Day most national polls showed him running a close second behind former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and the majority of state polls had him in the top three.

No longer. Thompson's campaign has yet to take off as expected and voters -- especially in crucial early states like Iowa, New Hampshire and Florida.

The most recent data comes from New Hampshire where two surveys were released over the weekend. The first, conducted by theUniversity of New Hampshire for the Boston Globe, put Thompson in sixth (yes, SIXTH) place with just three percent of the vote. (Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney led the way with 32 percent.) In a Marist University poll Thompson again took sixth place with just five percent support. To be clear, Thompson was never a frontrunner in New Hampshire but polls conducted in the run-up to his announcement and just after he formally entered the race show him regularly polling in double digits.

Thompson's shrinking support is apparent in other early states as well. The last three polls taken in Iowa put Thompson in fourth, fifth and fourth place, respectively, and his high water mark in any of those surveys is 11 percent. In Florida, too, Thompson appears to be fading. A new poll conducted for the Miami Herald and St. Petersburg Times showed Thompson in fifth place (eight percent) behind Giuliani (36 percent), Romney (19 percent), Arizona Sen. John McCain (12 percent) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (nine percent).

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; axisofdesperation; chriscillizza; elections; flounder; fred; fredthompson; halibut; pissanthropy; postcardfromoblivion; thinningtheherd
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You must have brown eyes. lol


121 posted on 11/13/2007 12:06:44 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: pissant

Hunter is now at 4% in two national polls,
***I have one, can you please post the link to the other?


122 posted on 11/13/2007 12:06:53 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

“Yes, ~everyone~ who doesn’t drink the Fred koolaid is afraid...very afraid.”

I’ve seen the “They’re afraid of Fred” thing before. What I wonder is who “they” are. This seems to be the stock response whenever a poll shows Fred trending down. At the moment I’m neutral on Fred, but he hasn’t exactly set the world on fire since joining the race, and this is hardly the first poll that shows him losing speed.


123 posted on 11/13/2007 12:06:57 PM PST by snarkybob
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To: dschapin; Calpernia

Team Fred may want to ditch Abraham, Matalin and that Log Cabin guy and bring in some new blood


124 posted on 11/13/2007 12:07:08 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

Obviously, you haven’t read all my posts on this thread.


125 posted on 11/13/2007 12:07:41 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

They are still friends. Hunter went to his sentencing with him. Duke knows he f***d up.


126 posted on 11/13/2007 12:08:37 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Kevmo

That link does not show Fred at 6% either. Sorry. That link does not show voter preference percentages at all.


127 posted on 11/13/2007 12:08:55 PM PST by Petronski (F-R-E-D! Fred! Fred! Fred!)
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To: Kevmo

You have the CNN?


128 posted on 11/13/2007 12:09:05 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
You maybe right. Fred may not get any big endorsements with them on the team

He could really use someone like National Right to Life right now... Right?

129 posted on 11/13/2007 12:09:38 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: kevkrom

Both democrats. The GOP has no history of electing “unknowns”.
***Then trust what you are hearing and seeing, in polls and on Intrade. Hunter is slowly rising, Thompson has shown a deep decline. For the most part we see over & over again from Thompson fans that they think Hunter is “a better man” or that kind of thing, so go with the more conservative candidate, especially if he’s showing signs of moving up rather than down.


130 posted on 11/13/2007 12:09:52 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: snarkybob

See post #14.


131 posted on 11/13/2007 12:11:02 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: ejonesie22

they’ll drop Fred like a hot potato when Hunter ascends.


132 posted on 11/13/2007 12:11:22 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Kevmo
on Intrade. Hunter is slowly rising

Has he closed above 0.1 on the 'real money" market lately? Nope. Why do you keep touting Hunter's "Intrade" numbers when they don't exist?

133 posted on 11/13/2007 12:11:47 PM PST by kevkrom (“Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?” - FDT)
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To: pissant
More on Hunter here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1925206/posts

134 posted on 11/13/2007 12:12:07 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Kevmo
For the most part we see over & over again from Thompson fans that they think Hunter is “a better man” or that kind of thing

Not from me. Hunter's a good man, and all things considered, I'd have little trouble voting for him, but Thompson is the better man and the better candidate.

135 posted on 11/13/2007 12:12:37 PM PST by kevkrom (“Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?” - FDT)
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To: ejonesie22; Lazarus Long; pissant
A meal I would gladly eat, but not one I am counting on...

Same here. I like DH (though I think some of his supporters are beginning to approach the realm of cult-members, if their verbiage is to be believed), but he is not going to take the nomination. It's just not going to happen, I hate to break it to you. I hope I'm wrong, because he would be my "natural" first choice, but I have to be realistic as well as idealistic.

Frankly, I'm to the point where if FDT doesn't take it, I'm dropping politics altogether. With Romney, McCain, or Giuliani at the helm of the GOP ticket, it's just not worth bothering with anymore. I'll live my life the best I can before God and man as self-sufficiently as possible, and the rest of the country can suffer the consequences of its own mistakes.

136 posted on 11/13/2007 12:12:59 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: kevkrom

Do you have a link to the “real money” market data, as separated from the pretend-o-rama data?


137 posted on 11/13/2007 12:13:03 PM PST by Petronski (F-R-E-D! Fred! Fred! Fred!)
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To: Petronski
Here.
138 posted on 11/13/2007 12:14:18 PM PST by kevkrom (“Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?” - FDT)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Name one Republican longshot in the primaries who has ever won the nomination. Even one?
***This is a unique race with no heir apparent. History isn’t much of a guide on this, and to be frank, I don’t care that much about republicanism history. It certainly does not compel me to forego my principles. I think Abe Lincoln might serve as an example of a longshot.

DH has, so far, only contested House elections in an overwhelmingly friendly district.
***Wrong. DH’s district is mostly democrats.


139 posted on 11/13/2007 12:14:27 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
With Romney, McCain, or Giuliani at the helm of the GOP ticket, it's just not worth bothering with anymore.

If the GOP goes with any of those three turkeys, I'm guessing my presidential vote is a write-in (so my ballot isn't thrown away as an undervote).

140 posted on 11/13/2007 12:14:52 PM PST by Petronski (F-R-E-D! Fred! Fred! Fred!)
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