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To: wita

Well I have a few indoors, but because of their long “on” times I use them mostly for outdoors, where I know the light will be on for a long time, but if it isn’t instantly all the way on its no harm. Outdoor lights are generally good for this, as you leave your porch light on when you know you will be returning after dark hours from now.

I haven’t timed the difference between how long it takes to be “ALL ON” for the outdoor lights vs the few I have in some select indoor locations which never get below 70 degrees... but even at 70 degrees ambient temperature if the light hasn’t been on for a while, its a 15-30 second wait for it to be giving off full luminescence.

I am not opposed to CFL’s, I use them where I find them applicable, but they are NOT a replacement for an incandescent. When you want full light at the flick of a switch instantly the CFL’s don’t provide this. If they did I’d have them all over my house due to the cost savings, but they don’t. And to think you can mandate them is rediculous... if they do I’ll just become a criminal and buy incadecense on the black market.

Incandescence will die when a superior product is offered, not when government mandates it. LED’s have some potential, we’ll see what happens. I have no issue using a lower power consuming item, if it provides the same benefit and performance to me... CFL’s in many instances don’t.


284 posted on 11/12/2007 8:27:40 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

“but even at 70 degrees ambient temperature if the light hasn’t been on for a while, its a 15-30 second wait for it to be giving off full luminescence.

I am not opposed to CFL’s, I use them where I find them applicable, but they are NOT a replacement for an incandescent. When you want full light at the flick of a switch instantly the CFL’s don’t provide this.”


The BS I see you guys pushing is nonsense.

I have been using these bulbs for a good dozen years, in fact that is all I use now except for a couple of LED lights.

I’m not aware of a 15-30 second turn-on, my bulbs don’t burn out quickly, my bulbs don’t burst into flames, I know that they make versions for decorative applications like chandeliers and conventional globe shapes. The ones I use in my motion sensor porch lights work fine.

I have been buying mine dirt cheap including the 125 watt equivalent 2000 lumen version that I pay about $1.99 for, because I prefer it in my reading lamps.

As far as outdoor, cold weather versions and versions made for dimmers, I believe that those are available.


288 posted on 11/12/2007 9:05:09 AM PST by ansel12 (Proud father of a 10th Mountain veteran. Proud son of a WWII vet. Proud brother of vets, Airborne)
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