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Incandescent bulb’s future dims
MSN ^ | 11-11-2007 | MSN

Posted on 11/11/2007 7:20:25 PM PST by Westlander

If U.S. lawmakers have their way, the lights may soon go out on Thomas Edison's greatest invention -- the incandescent light bulb. The 19th-century inventor brought illumination to the world's fingertips, but according to Congress, his invention isn't efficient enough for an age anxious about energy supplies.

"Only 10% of the power used by today's incandescent bulbs is emitted as light, while the other 90% is released as heat," Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., said when she introduced her legislation to ban standard light bulbs.

To eliminate this waste, Harman has proposed legislation that would effectively eliminate incandescent light bulbs from store shelves nationwide as early as 2012.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 110th; bigbrother; bulb; edison; energy; envirowhackos; ida; incandescent; janeharman; light; lightbulbnazis; lightbulbs; lightpollution; nannystate; stalinisttactics
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To: Westlander
Funny, I don't recall cars being made in the Soviet Union and
Congress passing a law that you had to buy one.
181 posted on 11/11/2007 11:51:15 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Westlander
I guess Communism is responsible for the automobile too.

Were people FORCED to switch over to automobiles or was it the free market system at work -

Good grief, it's getting scary when people don't know the difference

182 posted on 11/11/2007 11:52:18 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7
“I am old enough to remember Kruschev banging his shoe on the podium at the UN and vowing “We will bury you within 50 years - and we will not have to fire a shot!” (That was in 1960...)”

I remember.
Little by little laws are passed that make the common man a criminal just for living.

You go along or get dead.
250 million and counting



http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM

183 posted on 11/12/2007 12:01:58 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Yardstick

Buy the 4 pack for $7. Consider the light fixtures you will be putting them in because the size is different than a regular bulb. Read the box for the lumen (brightness) output you want. Sylvania, GE, and Phillips are the best rated ones. For where you live you don’t need the cold weather rated ones. When you turn one on, leave it on for 1/2 hour - they last longer that way. Just a few tips for you, I’m not preaching. I’ve been using CFL’s for 10 years. They last about 5 years or so. Technology marches on. There is no ‘Communist Plot’ as others have suggested here. The big 3 light bulb makers have already announced their cessation of making incadescent bulbs, so this proposed law is a mute point.


184 posted on 11/12/2007 12:13:18 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: ansel12

A few years back, Cree managed to recruit Shuji Nakamura, the inventor of the white, GaN LED, away from Nichia. They’ve been beating Nichia like a drum ever since.


185 posted on 11/12/2007 12:15:07 AM PST by Redcloak (This post certified 100% Hillary-free. um... Never mind.)
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To: maine-iac7

Ahem, the big 3 light bulb makers have already announced they will no longer be making incadescents so this proposed law is useless.


186 posted on 11/12/2007 12:18:49 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
Tell who to kiss off? I am purchasing these light bulbs as my CHOICE. They use less energy and for the most part work the same as an incandescent. Using less energy means lower power bills. Taking waste to the proper locations is just smart as there is no need to pollute whenever possible.

In a matter of 15-20 years, we will begin drink the mercury and phosphors from these things, just as current fluorescents are polluting ground water.

I suppose we can stop eating the mercury laden fish so you can save thirty bucks.

Everything these conzies do has unintended consequences like the crap they made oil companies put in the gas, the current carbon credit frauds and so here we go again.

I've had it with them!

We need to take them to the dump.

BTW, the amortized costs of these bulbs sorta eat into your thirty bucks...as opposed to a two bit light bulb.

Not to mention the fact that the lighting is harsh and yellowish, they also do not give you enough of a natural light. They suck! I got rid of them except for the perimeter lights outside.

If this whack job gets a bill like this through congress I'll eat my shorts.

187 posted on 11/12/2007 12:22:23 AM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: Westlander
Their not the only ones making incandescent bulbs.

Why not let the consumer market decide?

Or are you schilling for the nanny state?

188 posted on 11/12/2007 12:25:47 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

One of the big box stores announced a couple of months ago they will not stock incadescents next year. The big 3 bulb makers control most of the market. I do think the proposed legislation is dumb because the availability of regular bulbs will no longer be there. I’m sure you’ll always be able to get them on-line.


189 posted on 11/12/2007 12:39:20 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Right; and if they emit heat, then you don’t have to turn up the heater as high, right?

You would turn the thermostat to the same setting as always. In theory, the heater would not run quite as much to maintain the same temperature. In practice, you would not be able to tell the diference. But electric (resistance) heat is almost always the most expensive heat you can buy. Natural gas, bottled gas, propane, heating oil, even electric heat pumps are cheaper to use.

190 posted on 11/12/2007 12:44:58 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: LukeL
I wonder if this “enlightened” congresswoman has heard about THERMODYNAMICS.

I'm sorry. I don't understand what you mean by this.

191 posted on 11/12/2007 12:52:09 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: Westlander
Supply and demand.

The stores will sell them as long as their is a demand for them.

Otherwise someone else will get the business.

192 posted on 11/12/2007 12:53:01 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Graybeard58
As I noted in a previous post I already have 2 CO2 detectors in my home

I think you mean CO. CO2 is carbon dioxide, which is harmless in small concentrations. Our bodies actually produce and exhale it.

CO is carbon monoxide which is colorless, odorless, tasteless and deadly, even at very small levels.

CO results from the incomplete combustion of materials containing carbon. If your home is all electric, you really have no need for a CO detector.

193 posted on 11/12/2007 1:00:46 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: DBrow

Those of us that keep reptiles, turtle and other such creatures can not use CFL’s as a basking lamp. The idiots.... How will a CFL keep Zack and Mack, my two headed turtle warm and alive? Jeez...


194 posted on 11/12/2007 1:10:43 AM PST by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing"only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: DaveTesla

Yes I know it’s from the NYT, but it’s half way decent. Consider this - if you whittle the supply, the demand is controlled. And I agree with you about the mercury ‘contamination’. A decent vacuum with a decent bag is all that’s needed if one breaks. We enjoy our CFL’s in my home.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/02/business/02bulb.html


195 posted on 11/12/2007 1:37:13 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: LukeL

I doubt she knows what that means. That is a word with many syllables.


196 posted on 11/12/2007 1:41:52 AM PST by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
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To: Westlander

Harman can shove it, as Tereza Heinz would say.


197 posted on 11/12/2007 2:04:29 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: maine-iac7

We are being forced to switch to the new bulbs for the same reason we had to switch from R-12 to R-22. (Freon for Air-conditioners)

Lies about the climate to cover for someone making a ton of money selling us the ‘new stuff’.


198 posted on 11/12/2007 2:26:00 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: Westlander

I’m generally very happy with CFL lamps. I have had only one go bad, and that was one that runs 24/7 as a night light. It’s replacement now has about 6000 hours on it. My only complaints are that some of them produce annoying RF interference, and there are clearance problems in some older lamps.


199 posted on 11/12/2007 2:56:41 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Check this out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/12-DIMMABLE-Compact-Fluorescent-Light-Bulbs-dimmer-23w_W0QQitemZ230190953010QQihZ013QQcategoryZ20706QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


200 posted on 11/12/2007 3:02:14 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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