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To: Texas Federalist
"so what you have left is that every citizen is currently a member of the militia"

Of the unorganized militia.

"and is protected by the second amendment"

I thought it protected a "well regulated Militia" not an unorganized militia. Is your second amendment different than mine?

193 posted on 11/09/2007 9:46:44 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
"...the right of the people..." not the right of the militia.
203 posted on 11/09/2007 10:03:18 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: robertpaulsen

regulated != organized


238 posted on 11/09/2007 11:02:09 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: robertpaulsen

rp
Your liberal definition of ‘well regulated’ has been refuted several times in earlier posts...yet you continue to harp on your own definition. We understand you believe you are correct. Most of us do not believe you are correct.


242 posted on 11/09/2007 11:06:50 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: robertpaulsen
I thought it protected a "well regulated Militia" not an unorganized militia. Is your second amendment different than mine?

Now you're just playing games. Regulated does not mean organized. Well regulated at the time, meant well-trained. Members of the unorganized militia as well as the organized militia must have been able to keep and bear arms to be well-trained.

257 posted on 11/09/2007 11:15:37 AM PST by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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To: robertpaulsen
I thought it protected a "well regulated Militia" not an unorganized militia.

You thought wrong. It protect the right of the people. You have read it, haven't you?

The reason given for the protecting that right is that a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. But the right is said to belong to the people. The militia clause has been used, wrongly IMHO, to determine the nature of the arms which keeping and bearing of is protected, but only in the Miller Supreme Court case and subsequent cases relying on it.

533 posted on 11/09/2007 11:57:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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