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To: robertpaulsen
The Bill of Rights was never meant to apply to the states.

What an entertaining notion.

There is no Declaration of Rights, and the laws of the general government being paramount to the laws and constitution of the several States, the Declarations of Rights in the separate States are no security. Nor are the people secured even in the enjoyment of the benefit of the common law. George Mason -Objections to This Constitution of Government. November 22nd. 1787

"The prohibition is general. No clause in the Constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give to congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both." - William Rawle. 1829. A View of the Constitution of the United States of America

"No free government was ever founded, or ever preserved its liberty, without uniting the characters of citizen and soldier in those destined for the defense of the State. Such are a well regulated Militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen, and husbandman; who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen." - James Madison, United States Congress, Bill of Rights Ratification, 1779

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. Art 6 Para 2. US Con

The First 10 Amendments to the Constitution as Ratified by the States December 15, 1791

Preamble

Congress OF THE United States begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the Fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.:

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

What an odd notion indeed...

Far from putting legislation into the hands of the FedGov, it exempts it from both. Just because your idiot courts keep screwing it up and re-writing the Constitution doesn't mean you have to twist the original meaning.

1,283 posted on 11/20/2007 6:07:29 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse
"Just because your idiot courts keep screwing it up and re-writing the Constitution"

For 150 years. That's your explanation. That's how your support your claim.

You're right and the courts have been screwing it up for 150 years. And the funny thing is, you cannot explain why the courts started applying the BOR to the states. Or, why only some rights and not others.

You don't know. But that doesn't stop you!

1,284 posted on 11/20/2007 6:23:18 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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