Posted on 11/09/2007 3:17:09 AM PST by cbkaty
Regarding robertpaulsen - Do Not Feed the Troll.
There’s considerable discussion on this later in the thread. And his account has been banned / suspended, so he may not be back. But if he is, just don’t get sucked into his inane 2A argumentation. palmer in #503 summarizes robertpaulsen perfectly.
Thanks,
FP
And the lower court found that law violated Millers rights, no? And reading the Miller court makes it fairly clear that had anyone been present to argue Millers case, the SC would have upheld the lower court.
First, thanks for the concern.
Second, read this...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923243/posts?page=373#373
(others are picking up on my idea as well)
I’m with you and maybe slightly ahead of you on this issue. The first time I read his “about” page I had him pegged
Anyway, that was the first time he’s ever actually posted to me...and you might note my sarcasm in reply. Even if he replied to my sarcasm, that would have been the end of it. I do not suffer fools.
FRegards
The Court can not just assume evidence not before them. The clear implication was that had evidence been presented to the Court to show that a short barreled shotgun was a suitable militia weapon, they would have upheld the lower court and found for Miller.
A shame, that. The grabbers and a good many federal judges have misrepresented the Miller case ever since.
See this for reference:
http://www.guncite.com/journals/dencite.html
Secondhand noise?
Jeepers, I already read that post half a dozen times and commented to you that you can put more than one name in the To: field of a post. Robert Paulson (1) has no good response to my last post to him, and (2) apparently got banned or suspended anyway.
The Pink Pistols, a gay defense-rights group, gets a lot more flak from the left for supporting RKBA than it does from the right for being gay, according to their interview in the NRA magazine.
So when the left talks about being tolerant of other viewpoints, or bashes the right for being “hateful” and “bigoted,” you can use this specific example to tell them to go to hell.
Congress screwed up in 1850 when they voted to grant California statehood under a state constitutuion that didn't guarantee a right to keep and bear arms. A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, and the right to keep and bear arms makes that militia possible. RP seems intent on convincing people that having made that mistake once, we should keep right on making it. You seem to want to take up that banner in his absence.
On the other hand, the Marijuanna (sp?) Tax Stamp Act was allowed to stand, even though it was prohibition in the guise of a tax.
What changed between 1922 and the late 30’s?
FDR packed the court.
This is true and we should arm ourselves against them.
Bump to that. Good riddance.
“US v Adams was the first federal district court case to find a collective right and US v Tott the first appeals court case, both from the mid 1930’s.”
Excellent points and the Genesis of hamstringing individual rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights...further compounded by Roosevelt’s New Deal Socialism. Socialism can NOT exist peacefully in a Constitutional Republic based fundamentally on individual rights. Peaceful co-existance is a liberal wet dream.
No. I am hoping the SCOTUS uses the Constitution, the wrwitingsof the Founders, and come to a conclusion that roles back all of our RKBA infringements back to the NFA of 1934.
The reality is, this may not be the case. Government will protect itself first, then see to their duty to the People second.
I’m with you...In basic we trained on M-14s, then M-16s (on automatic)...when, as a REMF, I got to Vietnam, I was given an M-14. Unfortunately it was housed in an ‘arsenal’ a few hundred yards down an open street. So I kept an M1 Carbine and Colt .45 in the hooch...never hardly saw the M14 (or an M16 for that matter). Never had a desire to own an M16...in part due to that ‘Mattel’ quality, same for Glocks.
Roscoe is the other troll on these threads. He’s like Bobby, but without the intelligence. Please don’t feed them.
“As the outgroups were redefined into citizenry he Constitution came to cover all.”
Agreed, and the 14th cinched it.
"I am hoping the SCOTUS uses the Constitution, the writings of the Founders, and come to a conclusion that roll back all of our RKBA infringements back to the NFA of 1934."
That's better...
That is why they wear the masks.
““If the court decides to take this up, it’s very likely it will end up being the most important Second Amendment case in history,”
My prediction.
They uphold the ban.”
That is because you, like me, do not trust the courts to follow either the law or the Constitution when a political point can be made. Kelo and the CFR decision served to destroy any legitimacy the court once had. The only thing that might mitigate the mess our Robed Masters could make is that we have two new and real judges on the court today who might just pay lip service to the intent of the document.
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