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High court to look at ban on handguns
McClatchy-Tribune ^ | Nov. 9, 2007, 12:18AM | MICHAEL DOYLE

Posted on 11/09/2007 3:17:09 AM PST by cbkaty

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To: SirFishalot

I would LOVE to see the democrats ban handguns via legislation.

I can’t say for sure, but I think it would trigger a catastrophic backlash against the gun-grabbers that would be unstoppable. Republicans would be swept in with landslide victories and the laws would be overturned almost immediately.

Shades of 1994, IMHO. It would set the gun-grabbers back 50 years.

The way the anti-gun crowd is going about it now has been text-book brilliant. They are incrementally chipping away at gun ownership block by block. Using the ATF to close dealers. Banning guns one at a time, starting with those least popular with the non-gun public. Raising taxes, fees and other costs until guns and ammunition are un-affordable to any but the rich.

A bold, sweeping ban would be the dumbest thing they could possibly do. I welcome it!


461 posted on 11/09/2007 7:09:25 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Old Student

Living free. Haven’t died. Yet... Cheers!


462 posted on 11/09/2007 7:11:54 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ctdonath2
It's worse than that. He excuses Federal infringement as well despite his protestation that it is only a check on Fed action. He cites the "penumbras and emanations" from the commerce clause, even though such an idea violates the finding of the SCOTUS from BAILEY v. DREXEL FURNITURE CO. 259 U.S. 20 (1922) that a mere Tax authority cannot be used as a prohibition:
It is defendant on the ground that it is a mere excise tax levied by the Congress of the United States under its broad power of taxation conferred by section 8, article 1, of the federal Constitution. We must construe the law and interpret the intent and meaning of Congress from the language of the act. Does this law impose a tax with only that incidental restraint and regulation which a tax must inevitably involve? Or does it regulate by the use of the so-called tax as a penalty?

This means the closing of the NFA registry moved it from arguably a legitamate TAX, to a prohibition and therefore illegal.

This is just one of MANY tangential arguments bandied about around this issue.

The bottom line is still this:

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

End of story...

463 posted on 11/09/2007 7:17:34 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: ctdonath2

robertpaulson is an anti-gun whack-job who strives to disrupt the useful discourse we have in discussing these topics. He is completely wrong in his logic, completely wrong in his definitions, completely wrong in his convenient misinterpretation of the law, especially of the Constitution, and completely wrong in his arguments.

The best any and all of us can ever do is to Completely Ignore Him and let his verbal diarrhea simply circle the toilet bowl on the way down. I’m dumbfounded that some folks here still try to engage him in logical discussion. The activity defines the phrase “exercise in futility”.

The smart money is to completely ignore him. He will never go away but ignoring him reduces his disruption on the forum. He strives to destroy every thread on FR about the 2nd amendment, and everyone who posts comments to him, no matter how well intended, only helps him cause more damage than he can cause alone all by himself.

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not reply to robertpaulson.


464 posted on 11/09/2007 7:25:12 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: mvpel

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


465 posted on 11/09/2007 7:33:16 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: ctdonath2

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


466 posted on 11/09/2007 7:33:49 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: FreedomPoster

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


467 posted on 11/09/2007 7:34:30 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: MindBender26

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


468 posted on 11/09/2007 7:34:54 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Eastbound

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


469 posted on 11/09/2007 7:35:34 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Texas Federalist

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


470 posted on 11/09/2007 7:36:32 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: beltfed308

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


471 posted on 11/09/2007 7:37:15 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Sans-Culotte

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


472 posted on 11/09/2007 7:37:40 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: DuncanWaring

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


473 posted on 11/09/2007 7:38:33 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: unixfox
If this does go to the S.C. AND the ban on handguns does succeed. We will then know who the real traitors are in this country. The lines will have been crossed.

And it will be the beginning of the next civil war.

474 posted on 11/09/2007 7:38:47 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: BCR #226

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


475 posted on 11/09/2007 7:39:30 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: CRBDeuce

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


476 posted on 11/09/2007 7:39:50 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Grunthor

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


477 posted on 11/09/2007 7:40:18 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Please don’t do that. Couldn’t you have just FReepmailed everyone? Not trying to nag, but it looks bad.


478 posted on 11/09/2007 7:40:43 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Jim Verdolini

I am begging you please to ignore robertpaulsen.

He is a troll who’s only goal is to disrupt all RKBA posts by hijacking them.

His method, which has worked brilliantly so far, is to make outrageous claims and bait you into wasting your energy trying to convince him and educate him. Which is not possible, since it is not his goal.

His goal is to hijack the threads. He does so successfully anytime people respond to him.

I personally know how hard it is to let such ignorance just go without succumbing to the temptation to educate. But trust me, you only play into his hands when you fall for this temptation.

The only way to prevent him from consistently hijacking these threads is to completely ignore him and to not respond to any of his posts, no matter how outrageous or how badly he gets your goat.

I’m begging you to please ignore him in the future, for the sake of reasonable discussions on these RKBA posts. Thank you.


479 posted on 11/09/2007 7:40:56 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Um, you know you can put several names in the To: field?


480 posted on 11/09/2007 7:41:16 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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