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To: Ol' Sparky
And, the Human Life Amendment in the Republican platform doesn't mention punishment for abortion, merely that the unborn have a right to life. So, Thompson just brought up a straw man

Oh, no, it's not a straw man. Thompson just told the truth.

If - and it's a very big IF - a law could be passed to outlaw abortion because in the eyes of the law it was murder - there would need to be vigorous enforcement activity. Hundreds of people would have to be arrested and incarcerated (if not thousands).

He who says A says B.

It is dishonest to tell people to vote for a Constitutional amendment but not to worry because no one will be punished.

To accomplish what you seek, you will have to tell the people what the result of your proposal will be.

In 1917, the Constitution was amended (amazingly) to criminalize a behavior that a huge majority of people did not view as criminal.

The result was predictable - and that predictable result occurred despite vigorous enforcement.

This battle cannot be won in the political arena until it is won in peoples homes and hearts.

W said that, FDT now says that, and any politician who tells you otherwise is a liar.

If the HLA could be implemented by decree, nothing would change.

320 posted on 11/09/2007 10:53:52 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Jim Noble
If - and it's a very big IF - a law could be passed to outlaw abortion because in the eyes of the law it was murder - there would need to be vigorous enforcement activity. Hundreds of people would have to be arrested and incarcerated (if not thousands).

And, hundreds should be! That is if one believes that abortion is the taking of a human life, which you obviously don't.

Thompson's arguments make perfect sense to people like you and others that favor keeping abortion legal. But, that doesn't make the comments any more abhorrent to pro-lifers, a group he needed to rally for him to win the nomination.

321 posted on 11/09/2007 11:14:16 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Jim Noble
In 1917, the Constitution was amended (amazingly) to criminalize a behavior that a huge majority of people did not view as criminal.

That would be 1919...And, what idiotic analogy. There is no comparison between drinking alcohol and taking the life of an innocent human being.

There is also no comparison between the level of support for banning abortion for convenience sake and for banning alcohol. The majority do and have for most of the history of the nation supported banning abortion for convenience sake. Up to 30 states would ban abortion in all but rare circumstances if given the opportunity.

322 posted on 11/09/2007 11:19:01 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Jim Noble
This battle cannot be won in the political arena until it is won in peoples homes and hearts.

Wrong. The battle can't be won until Roe is overturned. If it was, more than half the states would ban abortion for convenience sake and most others would much more severely restrict it.

And, yes, the law deters. The more the punishment, the greater the deterrent.

323 posted on 11/09/2007 11:21:23 AM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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