[Bishop_Malachi]

“So if a friend talks me into hiring a hitman to murder somebody, I’m a victim? That’s a typical liberal abdication of responsibility.”

If the “friend” does so by lying to you about the situation, yes. Which is precisely what the pro=abortion types do.

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Don’t think of it as murder, think of it as a post-term abortion....yeah!...that’s how I can rationalize it. /sarc/

[Bishop_Malachi]

Or how about post-birth abortion? That way we could just de-criminalize murder.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Don’t think of it as murder, think of it as a post-term abortion....yeah!...that’s how I can rationalize it."

Oh, it's definitely murder---but the murderer isn't the mother--it's the guy with the knife, saline syringe, vacuum suction, or whatever.