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To: samtheman; All
Sad thing is is that you are right. In the over 30 years since Roe the best we have done at a national level was the partial birth bill, something banning an act that was so disgusting it was surprising it took that long. And we have gone no where since

The last best hopes for the pro life movement is to get Roe tossed and then move on to the states, which ironically is what Fred is looking at. It is also good that it seems David Osteen, director of National Right to Life, seems to concur with what Thompson is basically saying.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922280/posts

If he likes Fred I can't see why other Pro life folks can't do the same, David is mired in it much more than most of us.

Congress is lost, the move for a national bill will have to come from bellow, from the states. With a good majority of state legislatures passing pro life bills the congressmen from those states will have to turn around a look again at the national bill.

I am really discouraged though. When I see people yelling about all or nothing on abortion, I realize they have no grasp on the political realities. Indeed those very well intentioned souls are doing more harm than good. This is a political issue despite it’s moral basis. People do not want to be preached too, they need to be sold.

It is time for new tactics, time to stop fighting about who is right and wrong in their approaches and start working towards saving as many babies as we can as quickly as possible.

141 posted on 11/08/2007 6:20:00 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: ejonesie22
It is time for new tactics, time to stop fighting about who is right and wrong in their approaches and start working towards saving as many babies as we can as quickly as possible.
You are absolutely right. I remember back in the '80s when Falwell said he would willingly accept a ban on abortions that included an exception for rape and incest and he was asked, "if you think abortion is murder, why would you accept it for babies conceived by rape or incest?"

Falwell's answer was brilliant, and I'll never forget it (though I don't remember the exact words). He said that he felt like a hostage negotiator talking to terrorists holding a plane-load of passengers out on the tarmac. Right now, during the negotiations, he'll accept any freed hostages he can get. Just get as many folks off the plane as possible and try to save the rest later.

That's the same rationale for taking this issue back to the states (where it belongs, constitutionally). Right now we are saving absolutely nobody. Back at the state level we would start saving lives immediately, at first in a small number of states but then in a growing number. We would win by example, and pro-life activists would have a good base of operations to expand from, like a beach-head in re-taking lost territory.

And, it would be constitutional.

155 posted on 11/08/2007 6:48:40 AM PST by samtheman (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: ejonesie22

Well said. With some of the tactics of people who are “advocating” for the prolife movement on FR, I’m not all that suprised at the lack of overall success at changing hearts & minds.


271 posted on 11/08/2007 2:01:26 PM PST by I_like_good_things_too
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