Anyone who pays attention to Novak (Democratic, Liberal, American traitor, framer of VP Cheney) is an fool - by their own choice.
Posted on 11/08/2007 12:00:05 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
WASHINGTON -- Fred Thompson was well into a prolonged dialogue about abortion with interviewer Tim Russert on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday when he said something stunning for social conservatives: "I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors." He then went further: "You can't have a (federal) law" that "would take young, young girls ... and say, basically, we're going to put them in jail."
Those comments sent e-mails flying across the country reflecting astonishment and rage by pro-life Republicans who had turned to Thompson as their best presidential bet for 2008. No anti-abortion legislation ever has proposed criminal penalties against women having abortions, much less their parents. Jailing women is a spurious issue raised by abortion rights activists. What Thompson said could be expected from NARAL.
Thompson's comments revealed astounding lack of sensitivity about the abortion issue. He surely anticipated that Russert would cite Thompson's record favoring state's rights on abortion. Whether the candidate just blurted out what he said or planned it, it reflects failure to realize how much his chances for the presidential nomination depend on social conservatives.
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If Novak is against Thompson, I consider it a plus. Novak is pathetic.
I also think we need to counter the NARAL stereotypes. You do not do that by ignoring them.
What society are you talking about? Poll after poll after poll shows a majority of Americans supports legalized abortion.
The "throw abortionists in jail" message doesn't really get a whole lot of political traction these days...
People have asked me, hypothetically, OK it goes back to the states, somebody comes up with a bill, and they say we're going to outlaw this, that, or the other, and my response was, I do not think it is a wise thing to criminalize young girls, and perhaps their parents as aiders and abettors, and perhaps their family physician. And that's what your talking about. It's not a 'sense of the Senate;' you're talking about potential criminal law.
It sounds to me like he is personally opposed to abortion, but is not comfortable with it being illegal.
I think Novak still sees McCain as the frontrunner.
Sure, poll after poll after poll show that we all agree on that one. /s
but the point is jmack...HLA supporters don’t want to put girls in jail but Fred was suggesting that would be the consequence. I don’t think that was very helpful
While I’m against abortion, I’m thorn about what to do with the person who does it, especially when it happens to a young girl. Yeah, like you, I commend Fred for saying this.
a majority of Americans elected and re-elected Reagan and W Bush, who were clearly pro-life.
Ooopss.. torn...
I think maybe some are missing the nuance ..... I believe it is the fact that he was using NARAL’s propaganda “that young girls would end up in jail”, when no proposal for that has ever ever ever been in the republican platform. Nuanced,yes,beyond me, yes, but this is what I read in Novak’s article, and certainly not that Novak was upset personally.
that was not the point of his article. Freddie used naral’s propaganda, see above. Novak is reporting.
A.) A majority of voters elected and re-elected Reagan and W Bush (except, of course, in 2000 when GWB didn't even enjoy that).
B.) Just because someone votes for a candidate who claims to be pro-life, doesn't mean the voter is pro-life themselves.
I still maintain that a majority of Americans accept legalized abortion.
The outrage over this is proof to me that even some conservatives are not capable of listening to a coherent discussion of someone’s position. Seems they, too, are driven by the sound bite. I thought we were better than that, and am terribly disappointed to learn that so many conservatives are as incapable of rational thought as liberals.
I hope you guys find a guy with the right sound bites you can support. Bomb throwers always appeal to some. I’ll continue to support the most thoughtful candidate in the primaries, Fred Thompson.
Anyone who pays attention to Novak (Democratic, Liberal, American traitor, framer of VP Cheney) is an fool - by their own choice.
Why not? They're murdering their babies, aren't they?
well we have a government that tries to represent the will of the people. If most Americans really wanted abortion to be legal, they would do anything to prevent a pro-life president from winning.
yes but they are misinformed. They don’t know what they are killing. The abortionist does
Pro-life candidates lost in '76, '92 and '96 and in 2000 the pro-life candidate won despite receiving less votes than the pro-choice candidate. The reality of the situation is that voters a.) no longer really care that much about abortion and b.) realize that a pro-life president probably isn't going to do much to change the status quo.
Do the math. It is fair to say by looking at the last two elections that about 1/2 the voters support the pro-choice democrat and the other 1/2 the voters support the republican candidate. Currently, the republican frontrunner is himself, pro-choice.
Kinda starting to look like a consensus, doesn't it?
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