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To: Hillary4Penetentiary
In reply to post #217 - It's not about those specific issues I mentioned, it's much bigger and more important than that. If we continue to elect phonies, people who say they are one thing but end up being something else (which becomes clear unless one is in denial) then you are putting your trust in the wrong people and the bigger issue and what's at stake is the future of our country, the more and more you "compromise" (as you admitted you do.)

I don't want to be rude, but did it ever occur to you that you are being manipulated by those who want you to keep supporting the people you're compromising on? They use fear tactics or lies (on both liberals and conservatives) to get your support, and to get you to keep pushing the line lower and lower. And obviously that has been successful. And the ironic thing is, national security does become THE issue, but for different reasons. And it's more than that. The future of our country is at stake, because of these phonies that you feel you must pull the lever for - they are the ones taking us towards unconstitutional, unAmerican globalist policies and deals that have sold us out and are slowly leading to an eventual global government. That's the real risk, for all of us. Which takes us right back to the original point of not letting yourself compromise more and more every time, because that's exactly what is leading to a threat to our national security and this country as we know it.

250 posted on 11/07/2007 10:45:02 PM PST by incindiary (the lesser of two evils is still evil)
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To: incindiary

“That’s the real risk, for all of us. Which takes us right back to the original point of not letting yourself compromise more and more every time, because that’s exactly what is leading to a threat to our national security and this country as we know it.”

I don’t feel I am compromising by supporting a candidate who believe about 85% the way I do, rather than one is 100% representative of my thinking which is a near impossibility. It’s not compromise. It’s a recognition of reality that no one is going to be perfectly reflective of my views. If I was giving up issues that are important to me, like national security, fiscal discipline and tax cutting then yes it would be an unacceptable compromise. But I have already said I will not support any candidate who is on the wrong side of those issues, e.g. Ron Paul who is on the wrong side of national security or John McCain who is on the wrong side of tax cuts or Mike Huckabee who is a big spender. Other than that, I can vote for most of the other GOP candidates knowing they’re where I’m at on the most important issues.

The other issues where we diverge are much less important to me in terms of what we’re facing in the world right now with terrorism and rogue regimes arming themselves with nukes and allying with one another against US interest, i.e. Iran and Venezuela buddying up along with Syria. This isn’t fear mongers to garner support for the GOP. It’s the world we live in my friend. Don’t blind yourself to that as a way to justify enabling Hillary Clinton to win by not voting in November 08.

But back to my point, how am I compromising if I support candidates who are right where I am on the most important issues we face and the issues of most relevence to me? I think sorting through what’s important and what’s less important to me in a candidate’s stands is a perfectly reasonable way to make a choice as to who to support.

And contrary to you I don’t think they’re phonies...I trust a person until they give a reason not to rather than assuming all of our GOP candidates are frauds because a few in the past have been. I convict people for their own guilt, not based on what others have done. I believe our candidates are being sincere in where they stand based on their past records of doing or supporting those things in their past or current governing positions that they say they’ll do as president.


296 posted on 11/08/2007 8:48:13 AM PST by Hillary4Penetentiary ("I hope Hillary is elected" Ala Senakreh, West Bank chief of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades)
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