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To: puroresu
...but where someone objecting to their behavior could get arrested for "hate speech". The idea is to crush legitimate rights while elevating destructive activities in their place. Government grows exponentially more powerful and centralized when this occurs.

If you are a type who wishes to have your own personal issues be legislated using a representative government (such as condemning and banishing homosexual behavior, for instance), then you should not be surprised when that same representative government process enacts legislation runs roughshod over your ability to discriminate and make discernment's without the fear of enforced law...of course, the law was created because someone with differently held beliefs that you have had their own personal issues to be legislated!

288 posted on 11/05/2007 1:23:17 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: LowCountryJoe
So if America had been "gay friendy" from the beginning, then the homosexual community would never have thought of demanding anti-discrimination laws or speech codes?

No, we'd have just had those laws passed back around 1798 instead of just a few years ago.

Someone's views are always going to be legislated. The issue is, whose views are healthier for society (with special attention to raising children) and whose views permit the most constructive freedoms for the most people.

You still haven't cited a nation where socially liberal attitudes have led to less overall government, as opposed to more. If your reasoning made sense, then Sweden (probably the most socially liberal and "tolerant" place on earth) should be a bastion of low taxes, private gun ownership, limited government, and decentralization. Instead, it's the opposite. Ditto for San Francisco. Try going there and collecting names on a petition opposing national health care.

The more socially liberal and "tolerant" an area becomes, the bigger its government gets, the higher its taxes go, and the more centralized it becomes.

289 posted on 11/05/2007 1:48:55 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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