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To: burroak
The fact is: Service men in harms way are doing a better job and are not having to pay the ultimate price as often.

No. The numbers are meaningless unless you know the number of people in the military each year.

For example if in the year 1986 the military had 1,000,000 members and there were 1,984 deaths that would equate to a .001984% death rate.

And if in the year 2002 the military had 750,000 members and there were 1,007 deaths that would equate to a .00134267 death rate.

It is just simple math and with out knowing the total number of deaths and the population the numbers are meaningless.

23 posted on 11/03/2007 9:43:59 AM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

“No. The numbers are meaningless unless you know the number of people in the military each year.”

Each number represents the lives of American service-people. Hardly “meaningless”.

This thread is not about percentages, ratios, or denominators. It’s about the NUMBER of American service-members lost each year.

Even you should be able to grasp that but you seem to have a hard time grasping anything that conflicts with your preconceived notions.


41 posted on 11/03/2007 9:59:21 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: trumandogz
No. The numbers are meaningless unless you know the number of people in the military each year.

The number of active duty military fatalities not meaningless. The percentage of military personnel who died is not meaningless. They are both important to answering different questions, addressing different issues.

No one is saying that people aren't dying in Iraq. What they are saying is that the numbers of military deaths are not unpredicented, even in peacetime. If you are trying to answer a different question, you analyze the data differently.

Sometimes rates matter more than absolute numbers. Sometimes they don't.

66 posted on 11/03/2007 11:07:22 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (A liberal is someone who believes Scooter Libby should be in jail and Bill Clinton should not.)
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To: trumandogz
It is just simple math and with out knowing the total number of deaths and the population the numbers are meaningless.

That is correct. Some people perhaps didn't go to college or are not too bright on math and statistics.

75 posted on 11/03/2007 12:19:59 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: trumandogz
No. The numbers are meaningless unless you know the number of people in the military each year.

*THE* most frustrating aspect of discussing these things... soooooo much needs to be explained to some people who.. just... can't ... THINK. it's painful..

Glad you followed up to explain this, i was beating my head at a wall reading the completely naive replies.
102 posted on 12/17/2007 3:08:27 PM PST by JINX182
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