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To: NYFreeper
Well, it might look like a country club to you if you are coming from your average Army post which looks like a ghetto, but I assure you it isn't. I for one won't apologize for the appearance of AFB's. The Air Force believes, unlike some other services, that it's most important asset is it's people. We have a saying in the AF: Take care of the troops and the troops will take care of the mission.

That's nice. We have some sayings in the Navy,
"Tell the men to fire faster. Fight 'til she sinks, boys. Don't give up the ship."
"Never give up the ship!"
“I have not yet begun to fight.”
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!".

There is nothing I could find concerning finer linens or topiary. Taking care of your people is fine. Pampering them at the cost of squandering the taxpayer's money and reducing warfighting capability is negligence.

When I go to an Army base, I think the facilities are too rustic. When I go to a Navy base, I feel like I'm at a gritty factory getting the job done, without too much discomfort. When I go to an Air Force base, I wonder how perfectly manicured flower beds and an endless plethora of support billets are keeping me safe. When I go to a Marine Corpse base, I see completely focused warriors and a Spartan but neatly kept base of operations.

Bad facilities demotivate people, but pampering is a waste of taxpayer's dollars and detrimental to the warrior character.

271 posted on 11/03/2007 6:37:46 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: SampleMan

It varies from base to base. Quantico is a heck of a lot nicer and better kept than Edwards AFB (the base housing I lived in there had swamp coolers, walls that were crumbling, and my internet service managed to download at rates of 300-400 bytes/sec through the phone lines). Whidbey Island NAS is a heck of a lot prettier than Cannon AFB. And while I’ve only got 24 years in the USAF, I can’t say I’ve seen a lot of flower beds on USAF bases.


274 posted on 11/03/2007 7:02:21 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: SampleMan

I was on the Kennedy, and my brother ( a pampered air farce type ) met me at the pier when we came in, and I took him on board. After about half an hour on the ship, he said “ Man, I could never work in these conditions”..typical pampered puke...Navair, baby!!!!


279 posted on 11/03/2007 8:08:58 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout)
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To: SampleMan

The Golf Course on Hickam AFB was almost heaven.... The Navy/Marine Course at Pearl wasn’t too bad either....


282 posted on 11/03/2007 8:16:11 AM PDT by dakine
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To: SampleMan
Those Navy sayings are compelling. We have similar ones in the Air Force too.

“Our mission is to fly and fight…and don’t you forget it”

"In God we trust: All others we monitor"

“Peace Is Our Profession, War Is Our Hobby”

Pampering them at the cost of squandering the taxpayer's money and reducing warfighting capability is negligence.

The Navy bases I’ve been to seem to be on a par with AFB’s, so I have seen a far share of “flower beds” on them too. It might seem like pampering to you, but taking care of the places where you live and work instills pride and shows self respect. However not all AFB’s are the same and we have our rustic installations too.

BTW, you may think the AF may now have a uniform fit for a postman, but coming from a Navy guy, I wouldn’t start an issue of uniforms along with wasting tax payer dollars.

286 posted on 11/03/2007 10:32:16 AM PDT by NYFreeper
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