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Currently, rape of a spouse is a crime in all 50 states and the District of Columbia

Thanks for the cite. It shows the laws were changed even later than I thought, and as I said, by Leftists for their own purposes. Hard case, bad law. Passed in the 1970s—the decade of Row vs. Wade, with no precedent in the history of civilization. No a promising pedigree for starters.

Where the feminists really want to go with it—and you can hear it in the colleges today—is to prove that marriage is in itself rape. That's what lesbians like Susan Brownmiller were saying in the early 1970s. Feminists are about envy: trying to tempt and harrass married couples into disunity from a hundred different angles.

The bond of marriage, where two become one flesh, does involve giving up one's own self, and keeping outsiders out of your disputes. It requires charity, manners, and self-sacrifice, and is risky, like all good things. You can be betrayed or mistreated. Bad husbands and bad wives are always there—but people once had the assumption that it was up to them to work things out, rather than looking for Control + Z. It's really about sex being private. If the option of calling the cops, the social workers, or the divorce lawyers is in the back of your mind as an option—in short, if you're always trying to avoid falling down—you'll never ascend the heights.

Maritial unity was common sense in the 1950s. To the modern mind, among people who haven't read history, even good conservatives, it's a scandal.

Re: Hard case, bad law

Please be specific.

Exactly what is bad law which defines rape as any case (marriage or not) when a woman is violently forced to have sex against her will?

I could not disagree with you more. And FWIW, I am not a feminist.

Wow, way to keep saying the same thing over and over again. GOOD JOB

A few notes: the 1950's weren't perfect, marital rape isn't an evil liberal plot (something which is pretty kooky to believe even for the internet, lol), and you're thinking of control-c. Control-z just suspends processes on most systems. Really, what a bloody weird thing to get tied up in knots over.

Where the feminists really want to go with it—and you can hear it in the colleges today—is to prove that marriage is in itself rape. That's what lesbians like Susan Brownmiller were saying in the early 1970s. Feminists are about envy: trying to tempt and harrass married couples into disunity from a hundred different angles.

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Correct. Unfortunately, not everyone is aware of this, certainly, those born after 1980 are probably unfamiliar with it.

The bond of marriage, where two become one flesh, does involve giving up one's own self, and keeping outsiders out of your disputes. It requires charity, manners, and self-sacrifice, and is risky, like all good things. You can be betrayed or mistreated. Bad husbands and bad wives are always there—but people once had the assumption that it was up to them to work things out, rather than looking for Control + Z. It's really about sex being private. If the option of calling the cops, the social workers, or the divorce lawyers is in the back of your mind as an option—in short, if you're always trying to avoid falling down—you'll never ascend the heights.

So where do you draw the line of "marital unity?" Is it okay for spouses to beat each other? To kill each other? Should the cops and courts stay out of that, too?

Rape is a physical assault of an especially degrading and humiliating nature. No one is entitled to inflict that on another, married or not.

SamuraiScot, you need to get some serious counselling. I fear for any woman who would decide to marry you. I can't beleive you actually believe it is wrong for a man NOT to be able to force his wife into having sex with him.