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Preteens Trading Fairy Wands for Fishnets (Halloween Costumes)
Washington Post ^ | 10/30/07 | Brigid Schulte

Posted on 10/30/2007 12:23:43 PM PDT by Huntress

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To: LastBoyScout80
Unfortunately, there are a ton of parents who will allow their kids to go out in those costumes.

They must live in Florida - or somewhere where it’s warmer than here in Virginia.

141 posted on 10/31/2007 3:34:45 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Tamar1973
Because, IMO, there's nothing Christian about it.

There's nothing Christian about lots of things.
That doesn't make them bad.

Macaroni and cheese, for example.

142 posted on 10/31/2007 3:38:06 AM PDT by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: Tamar1973
At least they could have picked the right day.

And how do you know it was the wrong one?

143 posted on 10/31/2007 5:23:15 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Malacoda

does he pass out just tracts, or tracts with good candy?


144 posted on 10/31/2007 6:01:29 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? i think not.)
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To: Tamar1973

Christian perspective on Halloween
An Episcopal (e.g. Protestant) Christian’s view.
Since the eighth century Christians have celebrated All Saints’ Day on November 1 to celebrate the known and unknown Christian Saints. Saints are not just those whom the Church has canonized, but all members of that “cloud of witnesses” who proclaim Jesus as Lord - including you and me!

Almost as old as the celebration of All Saints’ Day is the tradition associated with All Hallow’s Eve. (”Hallows” mean “saints,” both mean “holy ones,” as in “Hallowed be thy name.” “Eve” means the evening before.) So, Halloween means “the evening before All Holy Ones’ Day.” Today we call that festival Halloween (Hallow’s Eve) and we have many fun secular ways of recognizing it in addition to religious ways. However, it’s important to remember that its celebration has a long, positive history in the Church.

What sort of history is that? Like many of the liturgical festivals (Christmas and Easter included), All Saints’ Day and All Hallow’s Eve have some connection to pagan festivals. People of many races and cultures have remembered their dead and have had superstitions about death itself. Christians remembered death itself on All Hallow’s Eve and celebrated Christ’s victory over death. During the Middle Ages, Christians would gather in Churches for worship and they would remember the saints’ victories over evil. Likewise they would put on little displays showing Jesus’ victory of Satan, often using unusual masks and costumes to act out the story.

Thus, the festivities on All Hallow’s Eve were the Christian’s way of laughing at death and evil, something we can do in certain hope of Christ’s victory over the powers of darkness. The Church for centuries, however, has seen All Hallow’s Eve not as a glorification of evil, but as a chance to affirm eternal life in the face of the death of our mortal bodies. Just as Easter is a celebration of Jesus’ victory over death and evil, so is Halloween!

1995 (with minor corrections and changes over the years)

in response to email castigating Halloween.com for glorifying evil when it was doing anything but that! :-)

For some other perspectives on a Christian Halloween, please see:
• ChristianAnswers.net


145 posted on 10/31/2007 6:10:37 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Mrs.Liberty

There was an episode of Hannah Montana where she was a zombie in Zombie High...so there could have been a motivation for the blood... :P

My princess loves Hannah too...as a result, I think I’ve seen every episode. lol


146 posted on 10/31/2007 6:20:48 AM PDT by Cailleach
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To: kalee

Had no problem finding an appropriate costume for the Princess at Target. She’s going to be (correction...she’s in the costume already...she is) a Snow Princess. Thick costume, long sleeves, coverage down to her ankles, mock turtleneck...plus a cape and a muff! The only skin she is showing is her face! LOL

And of course, the spitup monster is going to be a WWII bomber pilot. A very scary one if he doesn’t get his nap....He says night night.

Pictures will come tomorrow.


147 posted on 10/31/2007 6:28:04 AM PDT by Cailleach
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I know a few there in Alexandria who would never dream of sending their kids to public schools, but their daughters are sluts.

Yeah, we certainly had our share of sluts at my Catholic high school in upstate NY, and my little sister-in-law, who is a senior in high school now, says it's just as bad at the Catholic school she goes to here in Connecticut.

148 posted on 10/31/2007 6:31:25 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the frequently disappointed but ever optimistic Mets fan.)
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To: absolootezer0

Tracts, and a dose of Hellfire. Last year, most of the neighborhood had learned its lesson, and avoided his house — so he stood on his front porch and harangued the trick or treaters as they passed by.


149 posted on 10/31/2007 7:02:25 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: Malacoda

vinegar and honey.
no offense to the guy, as i’m sure he’s doing what he believes is right, but gosh, if he was being friendly and generous, he’d do alot better. he’s not doing anything to advance the message of the church with his judging. if he was passing out the love of Christ he’d be much more likely to have the message listened to.


150 posted on 10/31/2007 7:08:01 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? i think not.)
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To: Huntress
rofl! i just saw this cartoon and thought it'd go great with this thread :)


151 posted on 10/31/2007 8:20:21 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (Only two products have come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. Coincidence? i think not.)
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To: Perdogg
I don’t know about preteens, but the adult women were looking alright at the party I went to on Saturday night.

Today is halloween, and right now, I'm pretty stunned at some of the costumes I am seeing kids where while going trick or treating with their parents.

Its pretty sick how this has probably turned into a pedophiles favorite day of the year.

152 posted on 10/31/2007 8:43:53 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Gene Eric
I’ll take it another step further and suggest it borders on perversion. I pity these children being subjugated to the thrills and ignorance of adults. Where are they are grand parents? Do they condone this type of undress too?

I guess the grandparents are left out, but looking around today, this is just really sick, I can't believe how parents are dressing their kids, its halloween, and you would think the street where I work is a strip club featuring children.

I'm disturbed looking out my window and having trick or treaters, this is really twisted (this year at least).

153 posted on 10/31/2007 8:52:59 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Speaking as someone my friends would describe as “pretty fundamentalist” in a lot of areas, I am trying to understand your location on that spectrum. Please tell me, of the following, which you would approve as being fit consumption for a Christian…

1) H.P. Lovecraft, completely over the edge author and well-known madman.

2) Steven King famous modern-day dark writer.

3) Edger Allen Poe noted literary author and depressive.

4) Hamlet, Shakespeare’s classic and gory tale featuring necromancy and the death of almost the complete cast of characters by its end.

5) Ruddigore, Gilbert and Sullivan’s light opera, featuring paintings of Evil Ancestors whom come to life and communicate with the living, fortelling doom.

6) Our Town by Thorton Wilder, a classic play in which is set mostly in the town graveyard as the now deceased communicate to us descriptions of their lives.

154 posted on 10/31/2007 9:56:55 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Malacoda

You can make your own tracts, a thousand times less biased and heavy-handed and Chick’s. We do, but we also give out candy. Christ didn’t turn the sinners away from the wedding celbration in Cana (which is good, or there would only be Him at the wedding!)


155 posted on 10/31/2007 9:59:38 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Malacoda

You can make your own tracts, a thousand times less biased and heavy-handed and Chick’s. We do, but we also give out candy. Christ didn’t turn the sinners away from the wedding celbration in Cana (which is good, or there would only be Him at the wedding!)


156 posted on 10/31/2007 9:59:43 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
I dont see how a Christian can celebrate halloween knowing its pagan origins.

1) I don't celebrate it, my kids just get candy from the neighbors.

2) If you go there, then we have to dump Easter, May Day, Christmas, and almost every other holiday over the side of the boat as well. The pagans were wrong, but they were here first. (Not before Christ, of course, but before the modern church.)

157 posted on 10/31/2007 10:02:29 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: 50sDad

Of the 6, neither. I woud suggest John Bunyan if you’re looking for some edifying fiction/allegory.

Re: your other comment on the tracts - there’s nothing “heavy handed” or “biased” about telling people where they stand in God’s eyes. God’s own word is quite clear on the subject of the destiny of those who are not in Christ.


158 posted on 10/31/2007 10:08:21 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: Tamar1973
Halloween is part of pagan worship. It was one of the days the pagans would worship their gods. You can't make bad fruit good again. Sugar coating Halloween (literally or figuratively) doensn't change what it is.

Easter backtracks to "Ishtar', and was supposedly a fertility festival that fell around the time of Christ's resurrection; the story goes that the Catholic Church used it to explain rebirth to the pagans. It's popular symbology uses rabbits and eggs, both fertility symbols, and I believe it is hip-deep in candy as well.

1) The obvious question would be, do you "celebrate" Easter?

2) If not, do children in your family tradition miss out on candy then as well? Sorry if I end up with mulitple posts...something funky going on with our server.

159 posted on 10/31/2007 10:10:16 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Of the 6, neither.

1) Is what you are trying to say there "none"? From Stevevn King to Our Town is out of bounds? Gilbert and Sullivan is "unclean"?

2) I imagine that the original "Fantasia" from Disney would be unaccpetable as well?

3) Does this make Frank Peretti acceptable, or not?

160 posted on 10/31/2007 11:10:43 AM PDT by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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