Posted on 10/29/2007 8:12:17 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
How can you tell a RINO from a real conservative?
He or She doesn’t agree with YOU!
I think anyone who puts career and money before principle is a RINO. The money issues are a good way of telling because the RINOs have learned to impersonate real Republicans with the social issues. The RINOs are not as embarassed as they used to be to express conservative social values because they now know that there are millions of values voters out there. But RINOs are weak on fiscal conservatism because heck it’s somebody elses money and they are in bed with anyone who will pay their way, just like a kept woman. RINOs support open borders though they claim to value national security. The reason is that when push comes to shove money trumps everything. That is what a RINO is all about money, money, money. They sell out our border security and they sell out our future by being wasteful and they also sell out our economic strength by bad trade deals that benefit their fat cat friends.
...and then there's you know who..
Republican presidential hopeful, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and his wife Judith, pose with a pumpkin painted to look like him during a campaign stop at Lull Farm in Hollis, N.H., Sunday, Oct. 28, 2007.(AP Photo/Jim Cole)
And you would rather see Rudy or Mitt or McCain? Come on. You can’t be serious?
Anyone who ever voted against Pro-Life positions.
Yes. In 1992, I voted for “Republican” William Weld for Governor in Massachusetts. I was a recovering liberal at the time and he was the most republican available. I can move on to the next step of recovery.
Anyone who voted for the immigration bill.
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who has ever uttered the term “path to citizenship”
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who has ever voted for gun control.
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who thinks National Health Care is a right.
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who is for smoking bans on private property.
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who is willing to give up anything for “free trade”
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who panders to independents to “expand the party”
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Anyone who can’t understand people who stand on principle
Nope. Never. Not gonna do it. Na-Ga-Da.
Apparently in the views of some it’s someone who agrees with you on 85% of the issues.
I’m trying to figure out why people here don’t support Hunter, and instead choose a so-called “first tier” guy, when the tier system is based on nothing of any substance or value to conservatives. I can see it’s futile to stop it, but I am curious about it.
With rare exceptions anyone who is praised by the major use networks.
“Maybe my depiction of them is more apt. They’re UIN republicans — they’d vote for anything with an R in front of it, regardless of what it means to us.”
That does describe one segment, but I think the Republican Party is more center-oriented than we conservatives want to believe.
Both parties have this fight for control taking place. And it seems both bases are losing to the moderate factions in each party. Not that Hillary is a moderate, but she has not left any room on her right for a Dem candidate. The more openly left a Dem candidate, the lower his poll numbers. And if you put together the national poll numbers for Rudy, Romney and McCain, you have a very high majority of the Republican party favoring them. I’m not saying I like it, just being realistic about where the Republican party is today. It’s a center-right party at best, not a conservative party as defined by Jim Robinson, for example. Unless the polls are all wrong, of course. That’s why I say our problem isn’t RINOS, it’s CINOS.
The asshles support smoking bans in bars
Anyone who has ever compromised his or her soul, honor, and integrity to co-sponsor a bill with Senator Edward M. Kennedy. Makes me want to go wash my hands now that I've entered this addition.
The best assumption to make these days is that all Republicans are Rhino,s unless they can prove otherwise by way of there record. The reason this is the best assumption is that 90% of them are. Very sad, but true.
Yeah, and the biggest RINOs seem to have been in office the longest. Funny, now they have Trent Lott on the RINO list. Few years back, I wanted to throw him under the bus for the fake fraud he was, and people wanted to ban me for it. Look at them now.
Work for MSDNC
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“The best assumption to make these days is that all Republicans are Rhino,s unless they can prove otherwise by way of there record. The reason this is the best assumption is that 90% of them are. Very sad, but true.”
The Republican party is NOT conservative, it is a center-right party. The party was conservative for about 8 years, known as the Reagan years, and even he had his moderate moments. This is the party that then nominated and elected George Bush the elder, and it hasn’t really changed since then, except for a very short Newt fantasy that didn’t last very long. George the younger has been moderate overall, and the party continues to favor moderates. That’s why Hunter is going nowhere in the polls.
Unless the polls are all wrong, of course. That’s why I say our problem isn’t RINOS, it’s CINOS.
***The problem with calling them CINOs is that they’ll swear up & down that they’re conservative. But they stop short at calling themselves socons — social conservatives. I know they don’t like being called solibs.
So the tension is between socons and wannabe conservatives.
The best name is like the socon one, where each side accepts it. We don’t consider them to be conservatives, and they do. So we need a name they’ll admit to — maybe pragmacons. Principled socons vs. compromising pragmacons.
RINOs have views more in line with liberals, Republicans have conservative views. That help?
“...maybe pragmacons.”
Haha! That’s pretty good, I have to say. I guess my point is that if 90% of your biker gang is gay, you are in a gay biker gang, no matter how much you try to deny it.
It is my take that I am in a moderate political party (Republican), and “we” conservatives or “socons” are in the minority in this party. I also believe we have a duty to our country to vote in the presidential election, though I have no problem with someone who votes “third party.” However, one voting third party should join that party in my view.
Lindsey Ping
"Republican by day, Democrat by night."
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