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To: Greg F
To: broncobilly
What you wrote is the most sophomoric thing I’ve run into in a long time, broncobilly. Mormons seem to rush to sophism as their main method of interfaith discussion, which makes me suspect that they are either brainwashed or brainwashing (deciever or decieved). I’m assuming you are a Mormon from what you’ve said in this thread.

Basic response to your point: God gave man and angel free will.

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Two things.
1.What he said and how he said it sound like the endless bantering from many those who tell us we are wrong.

2.You say that “God gave man and angel free will.”
There are churches out there who say that God chooses who he will give the ability to have faith, and who he will not give the ability to have faith. Only those He gives faith to will be saved and man can do nothing about it. They say there Christian. Do you think they are?

631 posted on 11/02/2007 1:37:28 AM PDT by fproy2222 (If you want to know the truth, study both sides. To the most original source.)
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To: fproy2222
man can do nothing about it.

I disagree with this part of what you wrote. If you are talking about Calvinists, Augustinians they do not say that man can do nothing about it. You are oversimplifying the perspective . . . let's both read Augustine and talk in a month . . . if you are willing. Man can act, as called by God, to help bring others to Christ. Man participates in the church once called. Through prayer for others we can also participate in God's work. For example, Augustine's mother prayed incessantly for him to be saved and Augustine credited this with his calling! Work that into your thinking. Man has free will AND is called by God. This is a mystery that you are trying to work into human terms as a debating point.

636 posted on 11/02/2007 3:54:19 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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