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Just as I suspected. You all have no clue what you are talking about, relying on text-proofed media accounts for your opinions.

The Liberal Party sided with Giuliani in 1989. Sadecki, that they sided with a vast underdog in 1989 devestates your theory that they did so to gain access to the winner, doesn’t it?

When else did they go against Democrats? True, they opposed Koch in 1977. BECAUSE HE WAS TOO CONSERVATIVE. They sided with Mario Cuomo, instead. Sound like a conservative choice to you? Then there was 1969, when they backed John Lindsay, whom I’m sure jonathanmo’s source counts as supporting the Republican. Lindsay was booted out of the Republican Party, which prefered the DEMOCRAT to him, because he was FURTHER TO THE LEFT THAN THE DEMOCRATS.

In fact, the Liberal Party was so angry at Koch for being too moderate, they consistently endorsed his opponents.

Against Koch (who supported Bush), for Lindsay (who criticized even Johnson for being too conservative), for Giuliani... Not exactly a pattern of moderation.

Hey, I provided you with a link for some context. The Liberal Party in NYC is a mixed bag, but the way ballots are in NYC, the more lines you get on, the more votes you get.

You can draw whatever conclusions you want. It's my experience that people from outside of NYC have no idea the dynamics involved in NYC politics. You can't make a bumper stumper out of it, it is much more complicated.

The Liberal Party sided with Giuliani in 1989

That is true. I had forgot about that since Rudy had lost that election. No matter the alliance between Rudy and the Liberal party was a political one, not an ideological one.

here's why -- A liberal party endorsement of a democrat does nothing to tender favors or get access from a democratic mayour since most democrats are liberals anyway. On the other hand, a liberal endorsement of a GOP candidate, allows democrats to vote for the republican by voting for a liberal.

What;s interesting about all this is that Rudy never gave liberals much access at all -- and he ripped apart the welfare infrastructure, and cracked down on the homeless and petty crimes in poor neighborhoods which are core issues for liberals in NYC. There's a good article about this political gamesmanship that is SOP in NYC politics because it is such a diverse political environment.

here's the link:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A00E5DF1639F937A15757C0A9679C8B63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/H/Harding,%20Raymond%20B.

here;s that link to the article which discusses what the Liberal Party in NYC is about — since you seem to be making a lot of assumptions that jsut don’t hold water.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A00E5DF1639F937A15757C0A9679C8B63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/H/Harding,%20Raymond%20B.