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FBI raid shutters Medicare insurer (WellCare - formerly owned by George Soros)
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 10/25/07 | Kris Hundley

Posted on 10/25/2007 7:52:37 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: 8mmMauser

Democrat Senator Bill Nelson is interested in how nursing home residents are being treated or should I say, mistreated. He may be a liberal but he doesn’t want seniors to get poor care.


481 posted on 12/05/2007 11:42:44 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Thank you, everyone for finding stories relating to disability and euthanasia, etc. Without our team here, there's no way we could catch all the news. Of late, I haven't contributed due to serious time constraints but, I appreciate all contributions because how these disabilities turn out will set us up for either a safe future or a perilous one.

(If we can give foreign aid to countries who hate us, we can protect our disabled and our seniors. Note: I didn't say socialize medicine, I said "protect" them.

Right now, they're oftentimes mistreated, stolen from and neglected.

HELPFUL HINT: Anyone going into a nursing home or rehab place (same places), GET A CAMERA FOR THE ROOM. It's usually the cleaning people who take stuff when nobody's around.

482 posted on 12/05/2007 11:50:37 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Belongs behind PRISON BARS: www.judgegeorgegreer.com. Works at jail: www.michaelschiavo.org


483 posted on 12/05/2007 11:51:54 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: LilAngel

The black and white movies about Germany come to mind. They always asked to see everyone’s papers. As long as there are husbands like Michael Schiavo, I guess we’ll need papers to protect us from them and from our own govt. And the death cultist lawyers with their best pals, the ACLU and the Atheists of America.


484 posted on 12/05/2007 11:54:08 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: LilAngel

Do you think the Bejing Olympics are going to actually take place? They are soooooooooo totalitarian and barbaric.


485 posted on 12/05/2007 11:55:52 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser
Or, in the case of Terri Schiavo, would keeping her alive been less heroic to conservatives if it weren't an insurance company paying for her care? Perhaps that would have been deemed government intervention rather than right-to-life?

(what the writer from your post failed to mention was that Terri's monies were for REHABILITATION that was cut off in 1992. That was her settlement monies which went to George Felos and Debra Bushnell. Mikey wasn't gonna push for Terri's murder until Debra Bushnell wrote him a letter and introduced him to George Felos. Then, he saw dollar signs in his eyes, for him and for the death lawyers.

486 posted on 12/05/2007 11:58:11 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Terri’s horror? Only when they came to kill her the last time. Before that, there was Terri’s laughter. Since Terri, I have much less tolerance for the far left and for RINOS.


487 posted on 12/05/2007 12:00:26 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

What are the chances that a hospital called Roberts Woods Johnson would run countless tests to make money at the same time causing the patient a lot of discomfort and perhaps in some sense, torture? If you do too many tests, who wouldn’t call it torture? Then the poor woman would want to die. All those diagnostic tests is pardon the expression, overkill. But, they are profitable and painful too.


488 posted on 12/05/2007 12:02:46 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Mexico? Everyone gets a bad deal in Mexico. More money for el presidente’ and the drug cartels.


489 posted on 12/05/2007 12:04:07 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
More on the symposium in Toronto from LifeSiteNews...

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TORONTO, December 4, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - This past weekend's International Symposium on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide hosted by the Euthanasia Prevention Coalition of Canada (EPCC) hosted in Toronto, brought together over three hundred participants from around the world. By far the largest symposium of its kind ever, the event drew to Toronto key experts in the area of law, medicine, political activism and the rights of people with disabilities. 

Key players in the movement spoke to the role of broad coalitions of people who successfully halted attempts at pro-euthanasia legislation in England and Wales, California and Vermont. Speakers from the state of Oregon and the Netherlands spoke to the increasingly corrosive effects of legalized euthanasia and physician assisted suicide in those jurisdictions upon the integrity of the medical profession and the failure of safeguards to protect vulnerable people. 

Alison DavisDisability rights leaders  expressed their growing fears about the corrosive effects of a favourable attitude towards euthanasia upon their basic civil rights, as well as their particularly effective role in fending off such legislation. 

Alison Davis, who runs the "No Less Human," a group for people with disabilities from the UK, gave a compelling account of her struggles to overcome her disabling condition. She emphasized that she likely would not have been speaking at the conference had the laws in the United Kingdom allowed for euthanasia or doctor assisted suicide back when she suffering from severe depression that she has since learned to overcome.

Bobby Schindler
Bobby Schindler, the brother of Terri Schiavo, Henk Reitsma from the Netherlands, and Mrs Barbara Farlow, a resident of Mississauga, Ontario, shared their real life experiences of having to deal with the deaths of relatives that were hastened as a consequence of medical practices determined by current dangerous attitudes towards the elderly, disabled and terminally ill.......................................

New, Evolving Tactics of Pro-Euthanasia Movement Highlighted at Symposium

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490 posted on 12/06/2007 3:43:54 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
LifeSite also has more to say on the Mexico effort...

Although the law expressly prohibits active euthanasia, it is unclear if it will prohibit passive euthanasia in the form of withholding nutrition or hydration from patients, although pro-life groups in the country are not objecting to the bill.

The danger of such an application is increased by the fact that the law provides for "living wills" and allows relatives of unconscious patients to decide to withhold treatments. Such arrangements have resulted in serious abuses in the United States and Europe, including the starvation deaths of helpless patients such as Terri Schiavo...............

Mexico City Passes "Anticipated Death" Law that could be a First Step to Euthanasia in Mexico

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491 posted on 12/06/2007 3:48:28 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Effects of abortion argued in a thread by wagglebee:

"It might be that women who have abortions are also more likely to live a riskier and more abusive lifestyle but there's also some evidence to suggest the procedure itself could put women on that path."

Meanwhile abortion promoters continue to deny the existence of Post Abortion Syndrome (PAS) or of any negative long-term consequences of abortion for women.

Another Study Shows Connection between Abortion and Substance Abuse

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492 posted on 12/06/2007 3:57:33 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
If we probe the links of abort supporters, enviros, anything far left, we find a dull similarity as if all are warbling to the same sheet of music, (because they are). Thread by wagglebee:

The UNFCCC is opening today in Bali. Scheduled to conclude on December 14th, the Conference could be used by pro-abortion groups to push an anti-family, anti-life agenda. Typically, the goals of the a large part of the environmental movement are at odds with those of the pro-life movement.

Many environmentalists believe that human beings are the main cause for what they see as the decline of the planet and therefore equate fewer humans with less damage to the environment. Pro-abortion and family planning organizations are utilizing the environmental platform as a way to promote their anti-life agenda.

Pro-Aborts Use Environmental Platform to Push an Anti-Life Agenda

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493 posted on 12/06/2007 4:12:12 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
We play with the irony of words and their use, but the lefties are not playing, are trying to change meanings to use words for tools, not for essence. Lefties can't take a joke. Thread by wagglebee:

In reality, this is the most insidious and despicable of all positions on abortion. After all, there is no reason to oppose abortion other than the belief that it takes the life of a living human being. So what the "personally opposed" crowd is saying is: "I agree that abortion is the intentional killing of a baby, but if other people want to do it I support their legal right to do so and it's not my place to interfere." That is not a pro-life position. It's like someone in 1860 saying, "I am personally opposed to slavery and I would never own one, but if someone else wants to own a few that's their business."

Pro-life: What does it really mean?

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494 posted on 12/06/2007 4:18:29 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Mitt Romney's speech this morning was excellent. He even said verses about "When I hungered, you fed me. When I was thirsty, you gave me drink..."

It sounds like talking to Bobby inspired Mitt to take a stronger stance FOR LIFE. It seems that way to me. I've been to many masses for Terri and that verse is usually in the mass.

495 posted on 12/06/2007 11:02:24 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; Sun; wagglebee; All
IMO, Bobby Schindler's meeting with Mitt Romney was beneficial. (Let's remember though that the first prez candidate who worked tirelessly for Terri was Alan Keyes). The press is clueless that Amb. Keyes tried to get Jebediah to see the error of his ways when Jebediah became Florida's Pontius Pilate.)

MITT ROMNEY TEXT TODAY FAITH IN AMERICA.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23830

496 posted on 12/06/2007 11:51:15 AM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Barf alert!

The transplant company that was supposed to harvest this guy’s organs said they found brain wave activity. The justice of the peace overruled them, and declared the patient dead. He claims he can’t “declare” the patient dead, but he’s playing with words. He declared Mr. Fagan dead, despite the fact that he was so alive even the transplant company wouldn’t take him. I don’t think he can order Southwest Transplant Alliance to harvest Mr. Fagan’s organs while he’s still alive, but Jameson says he can order an “autopsy.” Didn’t Stephen King write about that in “Autopsy Room Four?” The family knows he’s alive, and they aren’t joining in the death cult agenda, so that might make it a little difficult to cut him up.


http://www.news-journal.com/news/content/news/stories/stories/12062007_wreck_folo.html - Pedestrian hit by car remains on life support

By MAGGIE SOUZA - mailto:msouza@longview-news.com

Thursday, December 06, 2007

A Longview man remained on life support in critical condition Wednesday evening, although he was declared dead Tuesday by the staff of Good Shepherd Medical Center, police and county officials said.

Clyde Fagan, 75, was injured Monday morning while walking near the intersection of Marshall Avenue and Lake Street, after he was hit by motorist Billie Don Nelson, 51, of Longview, police said. Nelson has not been arrested, according to jail records.

After Fagan was pronounced dead, Southwest Transplant Alliance — an organ/tissue donor organization there to harvest Fagan’s organs — found brainwave activity during its own independent screening, said B.H. Jameson, Gregg County Precinct 1 justice of the peace.

Jameson said he was called to Good Shepherd to conduct the inquest and ruled in agreement with hospital staff that Fagan had died.

Fagan’s family decided to keep him on life support after learning he still had brain activity.

Fagan remained in the intensive care unit on life support Wednesday night, hospital staff said.

Jameson said he has never had such an incident happen before.

He explained that inquests begin when city or hospital officials call the justice of the peace for the precinct where the fatality happened.

The justice of the peace does not declare a person dead; another official has made that determination, and the judge then acts as an independent arbiter and makes a ruling on what has happened.

At that point, the judge may order an autopsy, Jameson said.



497 posted on 12/06/2007 12:59:29 PM PST by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit, who taught me much. ~ Þ)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb; amdgmary; Sun; Dante3; tutstar; cyn; Republic; wagglebee
Terri's birthday was DECEMBER 3. Here are videos of Terri from TSSF.

http://terrisfight.org/pages.php?page_id=37

498 posted on 12/06/2007 3:13:15 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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To: floriduh voter

BUMP


499 posted on 12/06/2007 3:17:48 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Wellcare is still advertising on tv and in the papers while the investigation proceeds. So, the title of this thread is no longer accurate. They weren’t shuttered for long...


500 posted on 12/06/2007 3:21:45 PM PST by floriduh voter (Terri Schindler Schiavo unwillingly gave her life to become a debate question.)
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